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Fear Of Donald Trump Kept Putin From Invading Ukraine. Here’s How Trump Pulled It Off
THE FEDERALIST ^ | MARCH 03, 2022 | JOHN RATCLIFFE AND CLIFF SIMS

Posted on 03/04/2022 7:54:18 AM PST by george76

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To: metmom

Mine too. You are not alone in your thinking.

I wonder at times how much further ahead our country (and the world) would be if he had been allowed to take his rightful place as POTUS.


21 posted on 03/04/2022 10:35:17 AM PST by katie didit
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To: Dilbert San Diego

In the hostage situation, fear was a factor.

However, the key in negotiating with an adversary is to treat them with respect (no name calling, no finger pointing, no arrogant virtue signaling), then find out what they want, and see if you can give them some of it.

Reagan’s people cut a deal that was a win win.

Trump was also an expert at that type of negotiation.

It is the combination of real strength and willingness to pursue win win outcomes that makes a great negotiator.


22 posted on 03/04/2022 10:39:51 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: george76

We know!

But the “establishment” together with the Democrats and GOP, Inc. wanted him gone!

Now look what’s happened!

It’s almost funny if it weren’t such a danger.


23 posted on 03/04/2022 11:46:33 AM PST by Vaden (First they came for the Confederates... Next they came for Washington... Then they came...)
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To: george76

John and Cliff,

Y’all forgot that President Trump told Russia if they moved on any of their neighbors, then they’d lose Moscow.


24 posted on 03/04/2022 1:02:35 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((the more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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To: PGR88

[A stupid article

All they can say about Trump is that he “out neoconed the neocons”

If so, why did they hate him so much and worked for 5 years to remove him?]


Because they are left-wing isolationists aka doves who heckle the enemy to virtue-signal rather than do things to stop them. Trump was a right-winger, but he was no isolationist. LBJ talked tough while forcing US pilots to deal with extremely dangerous ROE’s that got 10,000 US aircraft shot down over Vietnam. Truman was the last real Democrat hawk. He burned a part of Tokyo to the ground, killing 100,000 people in a single night of bombing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo_(10_March_1945)

Had LBJ done that to Hanoi, the North Vietnamese would have sued for peace. Post WWII Democrats have treated GI’s like factory widgets - putting them in impossible situations and using them like so much firewood to coddle the enemy.


25 posted on 03/04/2022 2:39:14 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Where do you get the figure of 10,000 US aircraft shit down over Vietnam?

United States Air Force
All told, the U.S. Air Force flew 5.25 million sorties over South Vietnam, North Vietnam, northern and southern Laos, and Cambodia, losing 2,251 aircraft: 1,737 to hostile action, and 514 in accidents. 110 of the losses were helicopters and the rest fixed-wing. A ratio of roughly 0.4 losses per 1,000 sorties compared favorably with a 2.0 rate in Korea and the 9.7 figure during World War II.

https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Aircraft_losses_of_the_Vietnam_War


26 posted on 03/04/2022 2:48:24 PM PST by Reily
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To: Reily

[Where do you get the figure of 10,000 US aircraft shit down over Vietnam?]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_losses_of_the_Vietnam_War


27 posted on 03/04/2022 2:50:45 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: george76

Trump likely would have quelled NATO talk and looked for a deal on the Eastern provinces

That’s just a gues

I think he and Pootie understood one another ...


28 posted on 03/04/2022 2:53:02 PM PST by wardaddy (Free Republic has gone insane but it's fun)
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To: george76

bump


29 posted on 03/04/2022 3:01:37 PM PST by Albion Wilde (If science can’t be questioned, it’s not science anymore, it’s propaganda. --Aaron Rodgers)
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To: Zhang Fei

Hmm ok


30 posted on 03/04/2022 3:13:39 PM PST by Reily
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To: george76

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31 posted on 03/04/2022 3:15:36 PM PST by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.)
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To: george76
Trump was transactional but unpredictable.

Putin -- who clearly is not the same Putin of 5 years ago -- understood that even though Trump was not a neo-con, there is nothing in Trump's make-up that would have prevented him from staging Kadyrov death in Chechnya -- meeting the same fate as dead old dad and make it look like Spetnaz did it. Right there Putin would have to commit forces to put down a Chechnyan uprising.

Or Trump could have quietly meddled in Kazakhstan, and funded an earlier Tokayev v Nazarbayev revolution. Again, another diversion that would have committed Putin to split forces once Kazakhstan melted down.

Putin knows there is zero chance the US alphabets would attempt either near-perfect subterfuge under Biden's White Hospice, a zombie who must choose the narrowest path of pre-determined caution abroad.

32 posted on 03/04/2022 3:32:25 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least 1 of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, Merck and GSK)
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To: metmom

Mine too. Trump and Putin are both against the NWO,one world govt globalist. Rightfully so, I am too. Trump saw Putin as possible someone he could work with because he respected his position and Putin respected Trump’s. Jmo


33 posted on 03/06/2022 6:36:50 PM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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