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To: PGR88

[A stupid article

All they can say about Trump is that he “out neoconed the neocons”

If so, why did they hate him so much and worked for 5 years to remove him?]


Because they are left-wing isolationists aka doves who heckle the enemy to virtue-signal rather than do things to stop them. Trump was a right-winger, but he was no isolationist. LBJ talked tough while forcing US pilots to deal with extremely dangerous ROE’s that got 10,000 US aircraft shot down over Vietnam. Truman was the last real Democrat hawk. He burned a part of Tokyo to the ground, killing 100,000 people in a single night of bombing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo_(10_March_1945)

Had LBJ done that to Hanoi, the North Vietnamese would have sued for peace. Post WWII Democrats have treated GI’s like factory widgets - putting them in impossible situations and using them like so much firewood to coddle the enemy.


25 posted on 03/04/2022 2:39:14 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Where do you get the figure of 10,000 US aircraft shit down over Vietnam?

United States Air Force
All told, the U.S. Air Force flew 5.25 million sorties over South Vietnam, North Vietnam, northern and southern Laos, and Cambodia, losing 2,251 aircraft: 1,737 to hostile action, and 514 in accidents. 110 of the losses were helicopters and the rest fixed-wing. A ratio of roughly 0.4 losses per 1,000 sorties compared favorably with a 2.0 rate in Korea and the 9.7 figure during World War II.

https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Aircraft_losses_of_the_Vietnam_War


26 posted on 03/04/2022 2:48:24 PM PST by Reily
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