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EU Countries To Send 'Fighter Jets' To Ukraine: Borrell
Barron's ^ | 27 Feb 2022 | Agence France Presse

Posted on 02/27/2022 3:32:16 PM PST by Meet the New Boss

EU countries will send "fighter jets" to Ukraine at Kyiv's request to help it counter the Russian air and land assault, the bloc's foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said Sunday.

"We're going to provide even fighting jets. We're not talking about just ammunition....

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Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba has told the EU "they need the kind of fighting jets that the Ukrainian army is able to operate... some member states have these kinds of planes," Borrell said.

(Excerpt) Read more at barrons.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dmytrokuleba; europeanunion; germany; jets; josepborrell; nato; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; russia; russianaggression; ukraine; unitedkingdom; unitednations; untiednations; waronterror
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To: Meet the New Boss

But...but...they have the Ghost of Kyiv protecting them. Honestly, who is going to fly them? A video game character?

Kotaku, 2/26/22
‘Ghost Of Kyiv’ Fighter Pilot Blowing Up Russian Aircraft In Trending Clip Actually From Video Game

“A clip of a Ukrainian fighter jet blowing up a suspected Russian aircraft started trending on social media yesterday. Many believed it was proof of the exploits of a mysterious and unverified ace pilot called the “Ghost of Kyiv.” It was actually fake footage from the 2013 PC game, Digital Combat Simulator: World. ...”

https://kotaku.com/ghost-kyiv-russia-ukraine-invasion-viral-video-fake-pc-1848598266


41 posted on 02/27/2022 3:50:55 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Meet the New Boss

This is not good and shows poor planning by woke western generals.

If fighter planes were going to be sent to Ukraine, they should’ve been sent a long time ago (but they were probably waiting on the “climate change” report).


42 posted on 02/27/2022 3:54:00 PM PST by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: EEGator
"Ace Combat 7 for PS4."
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MS Flightsim 3.0.

43 posted on 02/27/2022 3:54:06 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: Husker24

“Probably Western pilots under Ukraine markings like the Soviets did in Korea.”

We don’t do that.


44 posted on 02/27/2022 3:56:11 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Meet the New Boss

BREAKING - State Duma deputy from the Communist Party Vyacheslav Markhaev directly writes that plans for a war with Ukraine were hidden from the deputies, and condemns the Russian leadership for it

Says he condemns the West for their deceit etc but also condemns Russian leadership “we hid plans to unleash a full-scale war with our closest neighbor.”


45 posted on 02/27/2022 3:56:36 PM PST by Meet the New Boss
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To: Zhang Fei

And just like Imperial Japan, this will widen the war.

Sending NATO fighter to Ukraine (What happened to “ghost”?) will be met with a response. It may be them getting attacked prior to entering the theater.

Ukraine is lost. We need to decide if we want a war to protect Poland, the Baltic States, and Romania next. I doubt Russian can push much past one or two of those three.

Expect a move to force a corridor to Kalingrad.


46 posted on 02/27/2022 3:56:58 PM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: LouieFisk

They’ve been flying aircraft from 2013 PC game Digital Combat Simulator.


47 posted on 02/27/2022 3:57:02 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: LouieFisk

LOL, I had that garbage.
I liked Sierra’s King’s Quest more. :)


48 posted on 02/27/2022 3:57:09 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Meet the New Boss

Where do they intend to land them?


49 posted on 02/27/2022 3:58:40 PM PST by PGR88
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To: All

More silliness propaganda.

You don’t send airplanes without ordinance, ground crews, ground equipment, maintenance manuals and the correct tools. Crews would be troops on the ground, so that’s not happening. The bases where the Ukraine might have this stuff have already fallen to the Russian advance.

Russia is clearly ignoring western Ukraine, meaning far west of Kiev. There are only small cities there and no bases.

This is just more silliness.


50 posted on 02/27/2022 3:59:12 PM PST by Owen
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To: dfwgator

It really sucks. This could get out of hand in short order. Putin is already pissed and this could set him off. Somebody had better take the Nukes away from him.


51 posted on 02/27/2022 3:59:33 PM PST by laplata (")
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To: Paladin2

In multiplayer in Halo (the first one), I used to love running people over with those.

BTW, I was so good at that game (seems ancient now) that I was as fast and accurate as people who were cheating with aimbots. Provided I saw the guy at the same time he saw me (which was a problem because the cheaters could also see through walls), I’d take him out with 100% accuracy with headshots no matter how distant he was.

Too bad I didn’t get into streaming and got a real job instead. There are guys out there, in their thirties, making 50 grand a month just streaming video games.


52 posted on 02/27/2022 4:01:16 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: EEGator

Joseph Goebbels favorite person, Goebbels even wrote him letters. Freuds Nephew. He had a lot to say about how gullible American women were.

He and his uncle should have been strangled in the crib. Or at least OD’d on coke.


53 posted on 02/27/2022 4:01:20 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Fog of War—Believe little of what you hear and only half of what you see. My Hometown Newspaper had as a headline—December 8th 1941. After attack on Pearl Harbor that damaged two battleships, the rest put to sea to engage the Japanese fleet, as B-17s from Manila took off and Bombed Tokyo, Japan. Fog of war—rumors and lies, propaganda and messaging. Putin has retreated into his bunker in a drug induced coma and will be deposed or assassinated within the hour! Ukraine will march on Moscow with Hero President and change Russia into a democracy like Ukraine.


54 posted on 02/27/2022 4:03:08 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( ALWAYS GO FORWARD AND NEVER GO BACK.)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Fog of War—Believe little of what you hear and only half of what you see. My Hometown Newspaper had as a headline—December 8th 1941. After attack on Pearl Harbor that damaged two battleships, the rest put to sea to engage the Japanese fleet, as B-17s from Manila took off and Bombed Tokyo, Japan. Fog of war—rumors and lies, propaganda and messaging. Putin has retreated into his bunker in a drug induced coma and will be deposed or assassinated within the hour! Ukraine will march on Moscow with Hero President and change Russia into a democracy like Ukraine.


55 posted on 02/27/2022 4:03:08 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( ALWAYS GO FORWARD AND NEVER GO BACK.)
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To: Owen

I like how a bunch of FReepers are so concerned about propaganda, but there was propaganda for weeks on this website straight from Russia, most of it ridiculing people for believing the massive army at the borders was for an invasion, and not one of you said “silly Russian propaganda.”


56 posted on 02/27/2022 4:03:29 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: redgolum

Where do they think the debris will rain down?? In Africa??


57 posted on 02/27/2022 4:04:52 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: dljordan

“He and his uncle should have been strangled in the crib. Or at least OD’d on coke.”

And you say that why? Because of how dangerous his ideas were, yes? Dismissing evil without analyzing why it was effective is dangerous. Just a few generations without talk of it, and it holds the same power.


58 posted on 02/27/2022 4:05:44 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Zhang Fei

Kennedyesk


59 posted on 02/27/2022 4:06:46 PM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: beejaa

So why did Putin invade Ukraine?
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https://www.azomining.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=47


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Ukraine has rich deposits of brimstone and mineral wax, extractions of potassium and rock salts have been carried out for centuries. Additionally, the Nikopol basin in Ukraine has the world’s largest manganese-ore fields. Natural gas and oil are concentrated at the Black Sea Coast-Crimea oil and gas-bearing regions and Dnipro-Donets.

Metals
The most critical metals produced in Ukraine include aluminum, iron, manganese, and titanium.

The Golden Gate in Kyiv

The Golden Gate in Kyiv. Image Credit: CIA Factbook

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60 posted on 02/27/2022 4:07:00 PM PST by nagant
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