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And the Putin-Lukashenko fan bois go wild!
1 posted on 02/27/2022 1:42:53 PM PST by marcusmaximus
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The peace talks will be something like:

Putin: Ukraine is mine now.
Zelensky: Ok.


2 posted on 02/27/2022 1:44:11 PM PST by BootsOfEscaping
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I really hope that the relevant oligarchs will get control of this loose cannon.


3 posted on 02/27/2022 1:48:39 PM PST by BlackAdderess (Hope for the best, prepare for the worst)
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The Russians probably made a list of demands in the past.

They may be more demanding now, but may settle close to previous demands.


5 posted on 02/27/2022 1:51:51 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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Our economic sanctions against Japan prior to WWII most certainly got Pearle Harbor attacked.


6 posted on 02/27/2022 1:52:09 PM PST by GingisK
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We are verging on WWIII.

Geopolitics with egotistical leaders is a fragile thing. Sometimes leaders forget the stakes when their feelings get hurt and they feel the need to save face. Things can escalate quickly out of control. All we need is for China to attack Taiwan, and we are going to be on the precipice of WWIII.

It is a very surreal feeling sitting in my office typing this in complete peace and security knowing that a month from now, we could be facing severe shortages or martial law because WWIII was declared and the entire world is cratering.

Such a weird feeling.

I mean, the odds are low. Nobody wants really wants it, but things can spiral out of control when you are too many decades away from the last catastrophic event and kind of begin to forget the extreme suffering and horror of it. We don’t have anybody left who really experienced it first hand. Our esteemed idiotic world leaders may get the idea that “it is different this time” and we can win.

We can’t. There are only losers in a world war. The losers who come out ahead and the losers who lose everything. With nucular weapons (GW Bush - the gift that keeps on giving) we really stand to lose everything. China thinks they can win a nuclear war.

Life is weird. I hope cooler heads prevail but I don’t trust the current crop of idiots further than I can spit.


7 posted on 02/27/2022 1:55:20 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (America -- July 4, 1776 to November 3, 2020 -- R.I.P.)
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I can’t blame Putin for putting his nuclear deterrent forces on alert. A dementia-ridden potato has control of the nuclear football.


9 posted on 02/27/2022 1:57:05 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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‘alert’

more pressure at no cost in Russian lives


11 posted on 02/27/2022 2:00:22 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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This guy with the landmine cracks me up..he couldnt waste his cigarette
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10557399/Symbol-Ukraines-toughness-Man-disposes-anti-tank-smoking-CIGARETTE.html


12 posted on 02/27/2022 2:00:50 PM PST by RummyChick ( )
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Dumb and dumber, Putin is a retard and his errand boy will go down with him.


13 posted on 02/27/2022 2:00:52 PM PST by baclava
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What’s the end game for Putin and Lukashenko after the trash talk?

Is there an off-ramp, or are they going to ride the bull straight to hell and push the button down?

Alternatively, are they both so weak that they have nothing to lose because their governments are ready to implode?


15 posted on 02/27/2022 2:02:45 PM PST by Ouderkirk (The democRATS are not looking to govern, they intend to RULE.)
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“Trade with me on my terms, or I will nuke your country.”

Yeah, that’s not going over with me.


18 posted on 02/27/2022 2:06:13 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Did Putin and his boot licker Luka think it was going to be business as usual after the invasion?


24 posted on 02/27/2022 2:10:46 PM PST by libh8er
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25 posted on 02/27/2022 2:11:12 PM PST by McGruff (A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World Before the Truth Puts On its Shoes.)
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German chancellor Scholz in a fairly long formal speech in parliament an hour ago has announced five steps that the German government is taking:

  1. Support Ukraine with weapon deliveries from Germany and Allies as an answer to Putin's aggression
  2. Deter Putin from further aggression through sanctions and embargos, both against the country, its private business and "responsible individuals".
  3. continue to increase deployed Bundeswehr units to support Eastern-European NATO allies.
    1. Maintain Battlegroup in Lithuania (being expanded with reserve forces).
    2. Contribute to second Battlegroup in Slovakia being built up (Germany will also take command of this second Battlegroup).
    3. Continue current adhoc-formed Air Policing deployment in Romania (training deployment with Italy was transformed to that)
    4. Continue current adhoc deployment of German Navy ships in patrols in Baltic Sea and Mediterranean.
    5. Ready air defence forces for deployment on NATO eastern borders if required.
  4. Invest to increase Bundeswehr capabilities:
    1. Establish an immediate 100 billion Euro budget for 2022 to increase Bundeswehr capabilities.
    2. Permanently raise defence budget above 2% GDP.
    3. Prioritize projects with European partners, in particular France for new MBTs, future Eurofighter replacement and just signed Eurodrone project. Replace Tornado with SEAD-enabled Eurofighters and consider F-35 for nuclear delivery (and yes, he named the thing usually not named). Procure Heron UCAV from Israel.
    4. Increase hybrid warfare and cyber resilience.
    5. (Seek increased energy independence from Russia by expanding coal and gas reserves and building two LNG terminals.)
  5. (didn't quite catch that - lots of bla about "ceasing naive exterior politics" of recent years and about alliances and "defending a peaceful Europe")

There was a lot of serious pathos and patriotistic platitudes throughout the speech, going as far as "we shall defend every square meter of NATO" and a "do not ask what you can get out of Brussels for your own country, but ask what is the best decision for The Union". The speech was accentuated by standing applause from most of the plenum (except the right-extremist pro-Putin AfD faction).


26 posted on 02/27/2022 2:12:50 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Schiff and Pelosi and Schumer and all the democrats with their fake Russia Russia Russia hoax have brought us to this level of hostility with Russia. They enabled Putin with their fake Ukraine impeachment. Schiff caused this all with his fake and evil which hunt using Russia and Ukraine as a fake and evil tool for politics playing with fire and not realizing the repercussions of what they were doing. The media went along and are to blame as well. Somebody please put Adam Schiff in jail for the criminal he is.. Hillary started the ball with this and is just as responsible and needs to be in the jail cell with him. The Republicans need to point this out load and clear. The democrats and Biden are the cause of World War III.


33 posted on 02/27/2022 2:23:48 PM PST by Mat_Helm
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“And the Putin-Lukashenko fan bois go wild!”

LMAO, ain’t nobody here cheering on Putin, some of us sre just attempting a realistic and objective analysis of what seems to be transpiring. These things have a tendency to spiral out of control quickly, and Putin putting his nukes on standby is next level stuff.

Among other things we are shutting out the Russian Central Bank so we can drive the ruble down to nothing, while his foreign currency assets are frozen so he can’t do anything about it. So we are actively trying to crush Russia economically, which in itself would be considered an act of war. Somehow I doubt Russia will just sit back and accept this without an appropriate response, a response that is likely to raise the stakes even higher. I don’t think they are in the mood to be playing here, they see themselves under an existential threat. All it takes is one miscalculation on either side. And who the hell knows which unelected clown among Biden’s advisors is really calling the shots, I think there’s good reason to be concerned.


35 posted on 02/27/2022 2:30:16 PM PST by jimwatx
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Earlier Russian television footage showed Mr Putin meeting with his defence minister and the chief of the general staff, and instructing them to put the nuclear deterrent on a 'special regime of combat duty'.

There is nothing "deterrent" about threatening a nuclear attack.

VP is the only one that is tossing the nuke card onto the table.

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38 posted on 02/27/2022 2:50:32 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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We’ve seen how competent the Russian army is.

I don’t think NATO needs to fear WWW3.


41 posted on 02/27/2022 2:57:14 PM PST by SpeedyInTexas (Whenever a Russian soldier is killed, an Angel gets its wings)
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The bellicose bimbo from Belarus can easily be added the to the SWIFT, airline economic sanctions without too much trouble.


51 posted on 02/27/2022 3:33:26 PM PST by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by non-compliance; jury and state nullification. )
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Putin's mini-me responds with more bellicose nuclear warfare chest beating.

Yawn.

53 posted on 02/27/2022 4:56:47 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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