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Lithium-ion batteries 'keeping the fire alive' on burning cargo ship carrying luxury cars
ABC News ^ | 2/20/202

Posted on 02/20/2022 9:37:54 PM PST by george76

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EV batteries could complicate recovery of burning cargo ship with thousands of cars.. A bunch of burning lithium-ion batteries ..

The ship is burning from one end to the other... everything is on fire about five meters above the water line.

batteries are spontaneously combusting ..?

https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/22940790/cargo-ship-fire-vw-porsche-lamborghini-ev-battery

1 posted on 02/20/2022 9:37:54 PM PST by george76
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All of a sudden, I can afford a luxury car! This is a good news story.


2 posted on 02/20/2022 9:42:12 PM PST by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: george76

Try to imagine driving your EV home on a rainy or snowy day, parking it in a garage attached to your house, insert the recharger, tuck your kids into their beds and then go to sleep.


3 posted on 02/20/2022 9:46:37 PM PST by allendale
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Light metal fires burn at such a high temperature that they suck the oxygen out of water used to douse the fire.

You can’t use water to put out a light metal fire. Light metals create nightmare fire scenarios on ships.


4 posted on 02/20/2022 9:49:27 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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Or being in a airliner as had happened. Or a spacecraft...


5 posted on 02/20/2022 9:54:59 PM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more hash brown patties! )
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To: george76

Ill say it again- this is a warning from God to stay away from electric vehicles- clearly- j/k


6 posted on 02/20/2022 9:58:29 PM PST by Bob434
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What a surprise! How long until the EV proponents start flooding the thread with tanker fires?


7 posted on 02/20/2022 10:04:33 PM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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Spray it with liquid nitrogen. Not much can stay burning with that .


8 posted on 02/20/2022 10:04:43 PM PST by Nateman (Xi Jinping is the most diabolical enemy America has ever had. 🍊)
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To: one guy in new jersey

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxqe_ZOwsHs


9 posted on 02/20/2022 10:19:13 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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Wouldn’t nitrogen pretty much instantly boil to gaseous form?


10 posted on 02/20/2022 10:26:37 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: fireman15

Isn’t this hulk just going to burn until it loses structural integrity and the bunker oil is released to burn on the surface?


11 posted on 02/20/2022 10:30:11 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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> Wouldn’t nitrogen pretty much instantly boil to gaseous form?

Yep. If sprayed, liquid Nitrogen would never make it to the ship -- it would be gaseous milliseconds after it left the sprayer.

Nitrogen is 70% of the atmospheric air, so the small extra amount contributed by the spray wouldn't do much.

That said, if you -could- get liquid N2 onto the fire, it might be effective.

12 posted on 02/20/2022 10:35:18 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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Try to imagine driving your EV home on a rainy or snowy day, parking it in a garage attached to your house, insert the recharger, tuck your kids into their beds and then go to sleep.

Do NOT charge your car in your garage overnight while everyone is asleep. Actually, charge it outside only.

13 posted on 02/20/2022 10:35:44 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (ui)
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Car catches fire while charging.

https://youtu.be/rItu9FIBsKE


14 posted on 02/20/2022 10:40:02 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (ui)
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Torpedo the ship and sink it.


15 posted on 02/20/2022 10:52:15 PM PST by Delta 21 (It started as a virus, and mutated into an IQ test.)
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I can see using nitrogen in a closed system to deprive the fire of oxygen. I think this one just needs to burn.

We had a ship run aground locally, and they decided the least damage would result from burning it in place.

16 posted on 02/20/2022 10:57:37 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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What kind of carbon footprint are we talking? Who cares as long as Elon keeps posting based memes!


17 posted on 02/20/2022 11:29:47 PM PST by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: Nateman

“Spray it with liquid nitrogen.”

You know of ship born liquid nitrogen dispensing systems ?
Do tell.

(not to mention that the liquid nitrogen would immediately evaporate (if it didn’t drift back on the dispensing vessel and kill the crew))


18 posted on 02/20/2022 11:36:11 PM PST by A strike (Public Health 21st century murder by government. DoktorFauxiMengeleGates to a TerreHaute gurney now)
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To: george76
Three factors not discussed.

1. Modern cars of plastic body panels, rubber tires, etc. are pretty combustible and their combustion products can be pretty toxic to firefighters.

2. EV batteries that are partially melted, being sprayed with salt water (conducting) is not a great idea, and there is not a big supply of fresh water out in the ocean to fight fires.

3. The heat generated by an EV fire is pretty significant and steel hulled/decked ships loos structural integrity at easily attainable fire temperatures.

I honestly think that the ship will be allowed to sink. I also think that world insurance industry just got a wake up call on the danger of shipping EV’s by water. That is going to put a huge cost increase into the price of EV’s.

19 posted on 02/20/2022 11:41:15 PM PST by Robert357
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To: gunsequalfreedom

A few months ago, the UK wrote up a regulation...to prevent black-outs in the mid-day period with people recharging their vehicles. If I remember correctly, you can only re-charge after 7 PM.

I anticipate most putting a timer situation up with the charger...probably starting after midnight. Should be an interesting period where a hundred home-fires per month is the general average for E-cars.


20 posted on 02/21/2022 12:03:26 AM PST by pepsionice
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