Posted on 02/16/2022 9:27:30 AM PST by Rummyfan
Let Hitler take the Rhineland. Let him annex Austria. Gave him the Sudetenland and he later took the rest of Czechoslovakia. Of course, the French didn't do anything either. As Churchill said..
You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war.'
It’s not surprising that leftie movie makers would support cowardice.
Muenchen....................
“Night Train to Munich” was an EXCELLENT movie. Watch the Criterion edition if you can.
I don’t trust movies named ‘Eunich’.
Bravo. Thanks for the reminder. At the time of Chamberlains acquiescence, Czechoslovakia's forces had at least 5 divisions, France about 20 divisions. Germany had only about 5 or 6. Plus Czechoslovakia had it's own improved version of a Maginot line. When Hitler visited it, he was amazed that a country with such strong fortifications declined to defend itself.
Poland had dirty hands; they too helped themselves to a slice of the pie.
“… a prestige film that has gained a high-end audience…”
Lololol…that guarantees it’s a T in the punch bowl. Pass.
People today opine that Chamberlain should have been ready to go to war in 1938. That ignores two big facts. Italy and France wanted no part of that response and were fully on board. Second, with hindsight we know perfectly how it should have been handled. But had he suggested war in 1938, he would have been removed by a no confidence vote the next day.
There is no way the British people wanted a repeat of the horror of WWI a short 20 years later.
Things went the way the pretty much had to. It was only two years earlier that Lindbergh visited Nazi Germany and had nothing but good things to say. Two years before 1938 the British king who was pretty much a nazi abdicated and a lot of British aristocracy was not hostile to Hitler yet.
And though we don’t admit it now, neither England nor the USA both were deeply worried about the well being of the Jews. And nobody suspected mass murder was around the corner.
I don’t think Chamberlain had as many options as people think. And he would have been a poor choice once the war began.
I tried watching the Netflix one, but the subtitles were going by so fast that I couldn’t keep up with the dialog. I gave up about 20 minutes in.
If I have to READ, I’ll read a book, not read a movie.
Put yourself in London 1938. Twenty short years after the nightmare of WWI. Try to convince the people to go to war for something the Czechs and French were unwilling to join in on.
It wasn’t in the cards for 38.
There was still a lot of sentiment at the time that Hitler was a bulwark against the Bolsheviks, some would have even welcomed Hitler attacking in the East. Britain had her Empire, let Germany have hers’.
I’ll check that out.
I have the Criterion Channel and they have all the great War movies either in permanent or guest rotation. The best show how all men fail in war, no matter where they’re from.
One of my favorites on now is Alfred Hitchcock‘s LIFEBOAT written by John Steinbeck and starring Tallulah Bankhead , Hume Cronyn and William Bendix among other greats. It’s set in World War II and a German U-boat has sunk their passenger liner. It’s a tale of their survival with lots of strong USA patriotism (at the end credits “Buy US War Bonds!”).
The reason Rudolph Hess flew his Messerschmitt 110 in 1940 to Scotland was to meet with sympathetic Brit aristocrats and try to conclude a Brit/Nazi peace. His mission was not completely impossible. That is why he was locked up for life pretty much incommunicado.
Lots of dirty British stuff in that era, as there is today.
The same slice the Czechs helped themselves to in 1920, while the Poles were saving Europe from the Bolsheviks.
Hitler was never going to invade Britain, what he did hope for was the Brits turning on Churchill. The Blitz pretty much guaranteed that was never going to happen.
I’m kind of in the middle on chamberlain
I think he gets dumped on far too much....his desire was to avoid war and I think he misjudged Hitler
He did not arrange the pact by himself ....he was celebrated for it till it fell apart
Churchill indefatigable was always a hawk....that was his nature and his pride in the empire and his place in it drove that
It must have been quite a reckoning for him to see it all slip away in his final years,
I view Churchill warts and all the finest political leader of the 20th century
He also keenly understood the American south and wrote well of us in a few volumes ....rare
Despite my Churchill love ....he was half American btw....his gorgeous mother though was another story..let’s just say she had a publicly ribald appetite
Neville does not deserve the scorn and condemnation he receives...most of Britain ruling class always viewed Winnie as an outlier dependable war mongerer....with one huge failure on his record in the Dardanelles....but when they needed him....there was no substitute...
God put him there...and he and Clemmie knew it
Chamberlains failure was a required prerequisite for folks to accept war with Germany
Much like imperial Japan attack on us accomplished the same
In that sense chamberlain played a part
This is an excellent show about what happened after Munich...
Countdown To War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QdVLKrs7A4
I'm convinced that only two people knew of Hess' trip: Hess and Hitler.
Apparently Lindbergh traveled to Germany several times in the late 1930s - with the approval of the U.S. military. Some Americans could see war coming, and didn't want to remain completely in the dark about German capabilities...
Even in 1939 the headlines in French newspapers was “Mourir Pour Danzig ?”
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