Posted on 02/13/2022 1:32:32 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
On Grace Schara’s last day, she had been given a combination of a sedative, an anxiety medication, and morphine leading up to her time of death at 7:27 p.m. on Oct. 13, 2021.
With an armed guard standing near the doorway of her room at St. Elizabeth Hospital in Appleton, Wisconsin, Jessica, Grace’s sister and patient advocate, screamed at nurses she saw standing in the hallway begging them to help Grace, who had been admitted to the hospital on Oct. 6 after testing positive for the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus on Oct. 1.
Grace felt cold after the 6:15 p.m. morphine injection, Jessica reported. She attempted to get a nurse’s help and was told this was normal.
Jessica Facetimed her parents, Scott and Cindy, at 7:20 p.m. They both joined Jessica in her pleas.
There was nothing to be done, a nurse responded from the hallway, because Grace had been coded as Do Not Resuscitate (DNR).
Scott and Cindy yelled that she wasn’t DNR.
(Excerpt) Read more at theepochtimes.com ...
No, a DNR does not mean “witholding care” such as antibiotics and fluids. It only applies to heroic measures such chest compressions, electrical defibrillation and mechanical respiration in case of cardiopulmonary arrest.
Her death sounds premeditated. If a sedative, an anxiolytic, and morphine were given all at once, this would cause respiratory depression, which would lead to death. Each of these drugs are central nervous system depressants and would have a synergistic effect in causing respiratory depression. Very suspicious.
No, a DNR does not mean “witholding care” such as antibiotics and fluids. It only applies to heroic measures such chest compressions, electrical defibrillation and mechanical respiration in case of cardiopulmonary arrest.
No that cannot be done
Her guardian would have to be the signatory
“I’d write him up and frankly would have done so.”
I’m not 100% sure, but I think that’s been done.
That’s not necessarily what a DNR does. It is not just a don’t resuscitate order. You can be very specific. Mine allows only for palliative care. It prohibits a feeding tube and specific other measures. They can take out my appendix if needed. Other than that nothing
That’s right but the DNR order is where the problem is. I’ve just gone through this ...again. As a POA I was pressured by the hospital to sign a living will. I didn’t but took the contract home and read every word. The only part the hospital was really concerned with was the DNR part of the contract. Later I was handed a straight DNR to sign, I didn’t.
As you say signing one changes the hospital stay into a death camp process.
Perhaps someone tried to overstay their visiting hours or wanted to slip the patient some sort of “alternative treatment” that the docs wouldn’t order.(which i would ignore if the patient was sick and their seemed nothing else left to try).
The patient was a downs patient from the look of her photograph. Such ignorance over the vitality and the usefulness of the lives of many downs patents is to be found in many of fellow nurse peers. I fight it all the time. many Downs patients have jobs and are quite intelligent, some need more help. I knew one downs patient who looked quite the part in High School but she did graduate;she was actually treated fairly well by most folks. I ran into her years later and she had matured, grown up, and was working in the hospital kitchen and you couldn’t even tell she was even a downs patient. She had a car and her own life.
Thank you
This is exactly correct. And good for you for writing the doc up. You have a license to protect too
I actually subscribed to epoch times to read this. I was curious as to the actual facts.
Thirst let me say this is a heart wrenching article. Some of it written for effect. Some of it with some assumptions and inaccuracies. Some of it problematic.
The first thing it the DNR. DNR does not mean do not treat. Withdrawal of support and consider measures is when life support is compassionately weaned. I take care of a lot of people DNR and provide the full scope of care. All this designation means is if there is cardiac arrest ACLS is not initiated.
Secondly it is patently false that when admitted we test you for COVID until positive then start you on sedatives. This does not happen and is a fiction that just ain’t true. The family states package inserts for morphine say do not five with benzos or dex. This is untrue and well. It says do not give without immediate respiratory support available. If we can’t give certain combinations of medications we can’t anesthetize patients for surgery. The black box warning is about respiratory depression where there is no help available. Benzos are avoided in the hospital because of the association of acute delirium. For full details look up CAM ICU and RASS scores. In the bad old days we used to snow people on the vent. We now know this is not right and to trade all medications to a goal RASS of -1 or 0.
Next there is not one physician looking to put someone on a vent. We do not use blood pressure to determine that nor heart rate. We generally do not use isolated pulse ox either. We use ABGs in concert overall clinical picture to determine if vent support is necessary.
As for the DNR it is not clear who had the power to speak for this. If the patient was not DNR then there is a tort here that should be filed. However this article paints a murky picture as to where and why the DNR was proffered. I make sure that I have a fully understanding of every patients wish on admission through conversation with the patient or whom by law can speak for them. We are required to record the code status immediately so we may direct care.
As for protocols, i still laugh when I feel of these. ICDM is just a large book of diagnosis codes. It does not have anything to do with treatment. To this day I have not been required to treat anyone in any particular way. As a licensee to practice medicine i am granted independent judgment and can treat patients as I see fit.
There most definitely should be an investigation into some allegations here that are legitimate. But there is an awful lot of information that is not pertinent to the actual situation. It is in the misapplication of statements that I find some loss of credibility on this article
But the one thing that is clear. Physicians do a very poor job of clearly communicating with families. It is the number one complaint I hear in performance improvement committees. I agree that this is an easy thing we could do to correct a lot of misconceptions and trust breaches we in medicine have created. Every family and every patient I treat gets time with me on admission so I can explain what I am seeing and what to expect. Sadly, because we do not communicate well and answer questions,
There are valid criticisms of the health care system. But there is another side to this story. There are questions that need to be answered.
I no longer trust my doctor OR hospital and will revisit my Will for any DNR language; perhaps change it to make it abundantly clear I don’t want the SOBs anywhere close to being involved in that decision. They are NOT to be trusted.
That's what the Third Reich would have done.
The CARES Act suspended patient’s rights. I have been working as a nurse advocate for COVID patients, along with some other nurses. I cannot believe the medical tyranny I am witnessing.
Most likely, the hospital made her a DNR without anyone’s consent. This is happening on a widespread basis.
My advice to people is to get the necessary meds & supplements to treat yourself at home. This incudes finding a Telehealth provider who will prescribe home oxygen if you need it. Avoid the hospitals as much as you can....they’re literally the killing fields.
I respectfully disagree with your statement. No one is making someone DNR without express consent. If you have evidence of same please report the hospital to the state agency on health care administration.
In the absence of direct and express consent, the default is full resuscitative effort.
Let me answer that for you:
COVID has changed so much in terms of healthcare delivery. While medical tyranny existed before COVID, it has increased exponentially & is common now. And many hospitals use “security” to enforce their new draconian policies: masks, limited visitors, restricted contact/access to patients, refusal of medical staff to speak to families, refusal of medical staff to even administer vitamins (they go apoplectic if you ask for the dreaded Ivermectin).....on & on. It almost reminds me of the airlines who just forcibly remove any customer who dare questions anything.
I’ve been in healthcare since 1995. I have never once ever searched a patient’s belongings. Now, people’s bags are searched all the time because THEY KNOW families are smuggling in ivermectin & vitamins for people
Hospitals are now, in many cases, run like prisons.
Hospitals have been trying to be the final arbitrators of DNRs for the elderly, and the disabled. It was an issue that was fought by Dr Dobson and the family research center years ago.
We apparently lost because I am hearing of a number of people who have been sedated to death.
I must disagree with your assumption of patients being sedated to death. That is an incorrect statement. Further DNR is entered on a physicians order only. A hospital cannot do this on its own and I know of no physician who changes a code status without a witnessed conversation and very clear communication.
No, a DNR does not mean “witholding care” such as antibiotics and fluids. It only applies to heroic measures such chest compressions, electrical defibrillation and mechanical respiration in case of cardiopulmonary arrest.
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not anymore. and it means sedation unto death too.
You can respectfully disagree all you want. I know what I have seen with my own eyes & the patients I have dealt with all over the US.
I was also helping my friend advocate for her brother who was admitted to the hospital I work at. We were expressly told by the CCM that if he arrested, they would not do CPR. Palliative care was consulted without the family’s involvement & there was quite a bit of bullying to “withdraw care”
That is not their decision to make. That is the family’s. There is medical tyranny going on all over the place.
My testimony mirrors that of countless nurses & patient advocates across the US. You can speak to nurses are United States for Medical Freedom and the American Front lIne Nurses - you’ll have your fill of anecdotes
I am afraid that will be in the future. Once it starts it’s going to spread fast.
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