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2024 Watch: Trump-Pence chasm over Capitol attack widens amid fight for GOP future
Fox news ^ | 02/06/2022 | Paul Steinhauser

Posted on 02/06/2022 11:20:17 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

For four years, Mike Pence served as the loyal vice president to then-President Donald Trump.

Everything changed on Jan. 6, 2021, as right-wing extremists – including some chanting "hang Mike Pence" - stormed the U.S. Capitol aiming to upend congressional certification of President Biden’s Electoral College victory that was overseen by Pence.

In the year since the end of the Trump administration, the former president and vice president have further drifted apart, with Pence acknowledging recently in a Fox News interview that he had not spoken with Trump since last summer.

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Fox trying to stir the pot.
1 posted on 02/06/2022 11:20:17 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Stirring the pot might be ok if it creates some good discussion and revealing of positions.


2 posted on 02/06/2022 11:22:21 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

For four years, while appearing to serve Trump, Pence was actually assisting the Democrats and Bush League Republicans to undermine him and hobble his efforts.


3 posted on 02/06/2022 11:22:44 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Satan using the Left and their Media minions including Fox trying to stir the pot.
4 posted on 02/06/2022 11:23:36 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Is Pence made of flesh or wood? He’s stiff as a board and you have to pry a smile out of him.


5 posted on 02/06/2022 11:23:52 AM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If 2024 boils down to a match between Trump and Pence then Trump is going to win. Primaries are base elections and the base if firmly behind Trump.


6 posted on 02/06/2022 11:25:12 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Pence was part of the GOP House leadership team of Boehner, Cantor, Ryan and McCarthy.

Prerequisite for leadership in the GOP is commitment to the Bush Plan for North Mexico (aka USA).

One must be for open borders/amnesty to get into leadership.

Pence was always a Bush League Republican.


7 posted on 02/06/2022 11:25:27 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: DoodleDawg

Pence will do about as well as Jeb.


8 posted on 02/06/2022 11:25:44 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

For four years, Mike Pence served as the loyal vice president to then-President Donald Trump.

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The Treachery of VP Mike Pence Explained


Emerald Robinson

Finally, President Donald Trump chose to lob a verbal grenade in the general direction of his old VP Mike Pence last Sunday night — regarding Pence’s ability to formally contest the results of the stolen 2020 election.

This was, for many Trump supporters, long overdue.

Here is Trump’s statement on the matter:

 

The reason that Mike Pence did not exercise the power to lawfully contest the election is because Mike Pence was never a Trump loyalist.

He’s a GOP establishment loyalist.

There were plenty of problems inside the Trump Administration, and Vice President Mike Pence was at the center of many of those problems.

In fact, it’s always been obvious that Pence and his staff were deeply involved in trying to remove President Trump from office.

Whenever the subject of Mike Pence comes up in casual conversation, I always ask the same question:

If you’re drawing a blank with these names then I’m sorry to inform you that you were not paying close enough attention to politics during the Trump Years.

Also, you were not paying attention to my Twitter feed — because I was reporting on these problems all the time during the Trump Administration.

So, without further ado, let’s review all the evidence against Mike Pence. Trust me: there’s a lot of evidence.

1) Who Fired General Michael Flynn?

Let’s begin with Mike Pence’s least favorite question:

“Why did you insist that President Trump fire his National Security Advisor Michael Flynn in the opening days of the administration?”

The official story is that Gen. Flynn had lied to Mike Pence about Flynn’s contacts with Russian diplomats.

Nobody has bothered to ask Pence exactly how he was informed about Flynn’s private conversations.

Think about it: somebody went to Pence with transcripts of Flynn’s calls, and told Pence that Flynn was a national security risk.

It almost certainly must have been disgraced FBI agent Peter Strozk.

It’s likely that Strzok was the one who pushed for VP Pence to fire Flynn because we know that Peter Strozk's assistant was Katherine Seaman — the wife of Mike Pence’s chief of staff Josh Pitcock.

We also have the text exchanges between Strozk and Page discussing infiltrating the Trump White House in great detail.

(This was the subject of an extraordinary letter from Senator Grassley and Senator Johnson to AG Bill Barr.)

What did Pence know about the FBI’s attempts to spy on the Trump White House?

Is it even possible that Mike Pence was totally unaware that his chief of staff’s spouse worked directly for the chief of the counter-espionage unit of the FBI?

We know that President Obama warned President Trump not to hire Flynn in 2016.

We also know that Flynn himself believes that Obama advised Trump against hiring him because Flynn knew about the Obama administration’s role in spying on Trump’s presidential campaign.

Removing Flynn as Trump’s National Security Advisor was a top priority for the Deep State.

In other words, Mike Pence was the first person to set the Russia Hoax into motion.

2) The Ukraine Impeachment

During the failed Ukraine impeachment of President Trump, plenty of State Department and NSC swamp creatures crawled out of the shadows to hurl lame accusations about Trump’s phone call with Ukraine President Zelensky.

Did you know that one of main accusers was a national security official on Vice President Mike Pence’s staff?

A State Department official named Jennifer Williams was placed on Pence's staff in April of 2019 — which was just in time to get involved in the Ukraine call and the subsequent impeachment.

(What a coincidence that she arrived mere weeks before the call!)

Just imagine being a few months into your new job in the White House only to volunteer to testify against the President in an impeachment trial over phone calls you didn’t like.

If you find that scenario absurd, you’re not alone.

During her testimony before Congress, Jennifer Williams identified her working colleagues on Ukraine issues as Alex Vindman, Fiona Hill, and George Kent.

She also testified that Trump’s call was”unusual and inappropriate” without explaining her legal reasoning.

(That’s not so strange because Williams had defied an order from the White House by agreeing to appear for her deposition at all.)

She was then sent off to CENTCOMM right after the Ukraine impeachment was over.

Williams’ attempted takedown of President Trump moved her immediate supervisor Lt. Gen Keith Kellogg to issue his own statement about Williams:

Ms. Williams was also on the call, and as she testified, she never reported any personal or professional concerns to me, her direct supervisor, regarding the call. In fact, she never reported any personal or professional concerns to any other member of the Vice President’s staff, including our Chief of Staff and the Vice President.

Again, obvious questions should be asked.

This is the second time that Mike Pence and his office were involved in plots against President Trump manufactured by national security officials.

Do you see a pattern forming yet?

3) Olivia Troye And The COVID Vaccines

The worst mistake that President Trump made during his administration was probably turning over the COVID Task Force to VP Mike Pence — because Pence turned it over to his chief of staff Marc Short and Marc Short turned it over to a little known national security official with no medical expertise.

If you want to know the name of the person most responsible for unleashing the Dr. Fauci vaccine nightmare on America then remember the name of Mike Pence’s “COVID advisor”:

Olivia Troye.

Why was the decision made to treat the COVID virus (developed and funded by the U.S. Government under the thin disguise of the EcoHealth Alliance) exclusively with experimental vaccines (developed with funding from DARPA) instead of therapeutics?

Perhaps because Pence picked a national security official to advise him on COVID who regularly appears on TV now with a framed picture of Dr. Fauci hanging prominently behind her in her house.

Olivia Troye was just as motivated to destroy the Trump Administration as Jennifer Williams, but she didn’t have the same level of interest in protecting VP Mike Pence from the fallout.

(Pence’s people probably figured this out the day that Troye appeared in a TV ad announcing that she would vote for Biden.)

Once again, Gen. Keith Kellogg was sent out to explain that Olivia Troye was another bad apple that happened to be planted in Pence’s office.

(In fact, Kellogg announced that he had personally escorted Troye out of the White House when she was fired.)

Troye then started a personal grift operation called the Republican Accountability Project — in which she came out of the closet as a full time political operative for the Democrat Party.

So that’s three members of VP Mike Pence’s office who engaged in anti-Trump activities during normal business hours. That’s a lot of treachery.

Let’s not forget the ringleader of so much of this malice too:

Pence’s chief of staff Marc Short.

4) Pence’s Chief of Staff Gets Locked Out of White House by Trump

If you still harbor doubts about Pence’s treachery, let’s turn to Pence’s chief of staff Marc Short for confirmation of these activities.

On January 6th, Short found himself locked out of the White House with his car still in the parking lot.

When a reporter asked Short why this had happened, Short’s reply was surprisingly honest:

“He’s blaming me for advice to VP.”

The he in this case, of course, is Trump.

My own sources in the White House told me that Pence’s chief of staff Marc Short was literally the first person to call for Trump to accept the results of the stolen election and concede to Biden.

Like I said at the beginning: there’s a lot of evidence of Pence’s treachery.

Long before GOP voters were suddenly surprised by Pence’s “lack of courage” on January 6th, I warned my followers on social media that any trust in Pence was misplaced.

My sources in the White House told me that Pence simply disappeared after the 2020 election. (He went skiing in Vail rather than bother with contesting the 2020 election.) I wrote on Twitter at the time:

We might need to stick VP Mike Pence’s face on the back of milk cartons because he’s disappeared.

- Nov 08, 2020

Most Republican voters have never met the big GOP donors — and have no idea what they do with their money.

The big donors wanted a Mike Pence/Nikki Haley ticket in 2024. They don't really care what GOP voters want, and they never have.

These are the people who pushed Jeb in 2016.

And Paul Ryan before that.

And Dan Quayle before that.

Pence is a creature of the GOP donors, not an America First patriot. That much is obvious now.

Pence was added to the Trump ticket to restrain Trump's populism — and that’s what he tried to do for four years.

When pro-Trump aides were sidelined in the Trump White House, I heard the same thing from all of them:

It’s time for Republican voters to admit that they had no idea who Mike Pence was.

Don’t be too upset with yourself. He fooled plenty of people.

The man you thought he was — that guy doesn’t really exist.

It’s time you paid much closer attention to your favorite politicians though — if you want your country to survive.

9 posted on 02/06/2022 11:26:03 AM PST by Bratch
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To: ChicagoConservative27

In another similar thread this morning, the Pence apologists showed up in droves.


10 posted on 02/06/2022 11:26:19 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. So, try to remember Ephesians 4:2.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Pence is done.

He needs to go back to Indiana, and spend all the money he’s received from lobbyists since he entered the Swamp.


11 posted on 02/06/2022 11:26:26 AM PST by BrexitBen
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Pence allies waited for a sharp counter-attack from Trump after the former vice president’s speech instantly made national headlines, but Trump’s statement hours later did not include a blistering attack on his former vice president.


The art of negotiation.................


12 posted on 02/06/2022 11:26:42 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Just what Republicans need now. A bunch of infighting to ruin 2022 chances. Sigh.


13 posted on 02/06/2022 11:26:45 AM PST by Houserino
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To: ChicagoConservative27

moar “Democrat stone soup”...


14 posted on 02/06/2022 11:26:49 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: PeterPrinciple

I don’t think anybody in their right mind would propose the treacherous weasel Pence…unless Trump manages to destroy DeSantis, Pompeo and other possibilities for 2024.

Pence was picked because it was thought he would attract the Evangelical vote and because he had no personality and would not conflict with Trump.

Of course, he was a scheming weasel, but Trump appears not to have known that until way too late.


15 posted on 02/06/2022 11:29:06 AM PST by livius
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I’m not following Pence anywhere, let alone Rubio or McConnell.

Looks to me like the RINOs are trying to fly the white flag while simultaneously destroying the Trump movement.

This will either end with Trump gaining the GOP as a whole or a new party or, worse, the GOP becomes a viceroy of the DNC as they are in California (and in Canada looks like)


16 posted on 02/06/2022 11:30:42 AM PST by Skywise
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“Fox trying to stir the pot.”

Yes, lotta inside baseball going on here that’s totally invisible to me.


17 posted on 02/06/2022 11:30:46 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: ChicagoConservative27
" For four years, Mike Pence served as the loyal vice president to then-President Donald Trump. "

For four years, Mike Pence served as the loyal president to then-President Donald Trump. democrat mole.

18 posted on 02/06/2022 11:30:49 AM PST by crazy scenario (The burden of Damascus is next!)
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“Everything changed on Jan. 6, 2021, as right-wing extremists”

Yeah, right wing extremists, Faux news strikes again. Last time I checked supporting the constitution and believing in fair elections is basic middle of the road beliefs for a citizen but I guess nowadays believing in America, wanting it to be great, being a patriot, putting America first, is “extreme”.


19 posted on 02/06/2022 11:30:57 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: livius

Of course, he was a scheming weasel, but Trump appears not to have known that until way too late.


The swamp was deeper than any of us thought.

Trump is one of those individuals who learns from experience. Watch him closely this time around.

Jesus came to divide and unite on one point. What is it?

Trump is following that model. What is Trumps point of division and unification?


20 posted on 02/06/2022 11:34:55 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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