Posted on 01/27/2022 12:55:16 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
California State University, the largest-four year university system in the country, is poised to eliminate SAT and ACT standardized tests from its undergraduate admissions process, following a trend in higher education over concerns that the exams are unfair to minority and low-income students.
The Board of Trustees for the 23-campus CSU system will vote in March on recommendations to end the testing requirements, which were presented at a meeting Wednesday and met with widespread enthusiasm.
“This issue of SAT and ACT testing has overwhelmed students and families for a long time,” said trustee Diego Arambula. “It feels so important to do this.”
California State University has 486,000 students. If trustees vote to permanently eliminate the exams, CSU would join the University of California in having a “test blind” admission process. The UC’s Board of Regents voted last year to drop the standardized tests at its nine undergraduate campuses.
Critics have long argued that standardized tests put minority and low-income students at a disadvantage, in part because of test questions that can contain inherent bias which more privileged children are better equipped to answer. They also say wealthier students typically take expensive prep courses that help boost their scores, which many students can’t afford.
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There are plenty of test-prep books available that cost between $20 and $30. I used one for the GMAT exam and improved my score considerably.
One need not pay for expensive prep-courses to do well.
The irony is that the SAT and ACT were STARTED by progressives at top universities, exactly for this purpose.
Especially after WWII, as admissions expanded from the children of plutocrats and senators, universities wanted to have a standardized, ranked test to show intellectual ability beyond economic or origin factors - its what 19th and early 20th century progressives were all about.
Their claim was that it would “democratize” the admissions process
Now progressives have once again turned their own thinking on its head.
Yes, that’s the problem. Too many Asians being admitted, out of all proportion to their population.
It never made sense to me that Asians were such loyal Democrat voters, but this may be changing things. Especially recent immigrants are insanely focused on education, pushing their kids to study hard, get into the best university they can, and then better the families’ prospects. This strikes at the heart of deeply-held values, and won’t be taken lightly. Will the GOPe recognize the opportunity and act on it?
The SATs could consider an alternative like factoring in basketball skills or drive-by shooting accuracy.
Let’s be honest, California State U education is already worthless at this point.
And when they finally get it for free, that will be an even bigger bonus for the kiddies.
“If the check clears, we’ll issue it a diploma.”
Maybe we will reach a stage where your doctors will have to be the same race and sex as you are.
Oh yeah. That'll put the finishing touch on the whole enterprise! California will truly be Utopia! I'm so excited.
Those statistics are out there.
Anecdotally, I have a friend who works at a top US university. They have "scholarship" windows for "disadvantaged" kids, who otherwise have lower SAT scores. Their internal results have shown that most can't handle the academic work, especially in the fields that "sounded" cool when they entered - computer science, pre-med.
So they get angry, depressed, drop-out, or finish their degrees in another major like 'creative writing' or a social science
And then protest they’re not being hired being a minority and all.
I think this is a terrific move. Just what the University of California needs to do.
And when they finally get it for free, that will be an even bigger bonus for the kiddies.
In my line of work, I am in contact with college students of this nature. Just got off the phone with one of them who is being sent full ride to an expensive four year institution. He admits he could care less that he’s even there. Is entirely disinterested in his degree and classes. Had delusions of grandeur thinking he’d play basketball for some division I school and now he knows he won’t. He could give a CRAP that he’s got the opportunity now to get his education. He doesn’t even care. We’re shepherding all these dullards into degrees that they know nothing about and will do nothing with. Put them to work — let them grow up. Let them see what life is like without a college degree. They might like it. Or maybe it will light a fire under them. There should be NO such thing as college for all.
“Trustee Yammilette Rodriguez praised the plan as one that will help students avoid what she went through. I had a 4.0 GPA but did not have the support to guide me and my parents didn’t have that information to help guide me,” said Rodriguez, who said she went to a rural high school that lacked college support. She missed SAT deadlines and didn’t take the test, then went to community college before she could transfer into California State University, Fresno.”
So CSU has trustees that never actually took the SAT or ACT. SMH.
I’ve read elsewhere that there really isn’t data to support “wealthier families pay for SAT prep/test courses.” Some do, of course—maybe those trying to get into the Ivy League?
My household is in the top 5% of income in the nation in a wealthy area and the only test prep my kids and their friends got was free tutorials on the Internet—and a SAT prep book from the library. And they barely looked at it or practiced.
They did well on the tests, better than their grades would have predicted in fact (I have 3 boys so no surprise there).
No $$ needed.
There are thousands of BOTs (fake students) enrolling at California Community Colleges right now. It’s a huge unaddressed problem and one of the worst things about “online remote school.” Student aid fraud.
“Unfair to Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Jewish people?”
A non-acknowledged fact is that the Jewish people have been hogging the slots for white people because Jewish people have higher IQ’s. I don’t think this is a anti-Semitic statement.
This is why the “issues” and woke studies departments were created. They are academic dumping grounds, for faculty as well as students, where colleges can hide the third-raters who can’t cut it in real academic fields.
I’ve read Asians tend not to vote because they DON’T register due to fear of jury duty. I think Asians were turning out GOP in some recent NJ elections as I recall.
It increases the desired demographics both ethnically, and actual\imagined sexuality statistics!
It kept leading certain races to believe they are supremier to other races, and thinking certain races were too dumb to get in on their own merits
A real journalist would demand examples. But, see Tagline.
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