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China sits and watches as Russia moves on Ukraine----- If Russia is concentrated on Europe it could leave more room for China to consolidate power in Asia
setimananews.it ^ | January 22, 2022 | Francesco Sisci

Posted on 01/22/2022 6:32:43 PM PST by elpadre

The geopolitical continuity of the Eurasian continent is millennia old. It harks back to Indo-Europeans spreading to Europe and South Asia, from the Eurasian heartland to the Huns, the Turks, and the Mongols roaming around the huge landmass following their strategic goals. It is a constant pattern, until recently when the Soviets stoked fire in Asia—in the 1950s war in Korea and only a little later in the war in Vietnam, first against the French then against the Americans—to distract the West from the main theater in Europe.

Perhaps the same is happening now with Ukraine.

Will China get entangled in a low- or high-intensity war in Ukraine along with Russia? Would Russia support China if it decided to move on Taiwan or in the South China Sea? Would the two countries coordinate parallel attacks on Taiwan by China and Ukraine by Russia to divert American attention?

Ties between Russia and China are not easy or straightforward. China, for centuries, has been wary of strategic threats coming from the north. Invasions or just pressure from the northern nomadic and semi-nomadic populations have been a main concern since the establishment of agricultural societies in the Yellow River basin.

Since its westward drive in the 18th century, Russia has been pushing against the power in Beijing, and after the fall of the USSR, has been worried that semi-deserted Siberia could be taken over by dynamic and overpopulated China from the south. They fought one last border war in the early 1970s, and in 1979, when China attacked Vietnam, Moscow supported Hanoi.

Still, the two countries know each other well, have an old tradition of mutual dealings, and felt drawn together by the separate pressures coming from the United States and its allies to the east and west in the past decade.

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1 posted on 01/22/2022 6:32:43 PM PST by elpadre
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To: elpadre

and more:

“..Moreover, despite all its old concerns about Russia, China is buying over $400 billion dollars of gas from Russia, brought in through new pipelines. The agreement didn’t go forward for years because the two sides were haggling over the price. Then it became a strategic move...”


2 posted on 01/22/2022 6:33:28 PM PST by elpadre (And here in NC)
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China, Russia and Iran have been having naval drills together. I don’t think it’s really about the navy so much. I think the 3 countries are having deep thoughts about Europe, Asia, and the Middle East.

The US doesn’t want a war. We certainly don’t want a two-front war. And a three-front war? Forget about it.

These countries are not dumb. This is the big opportunity to take what they have wanted, and if they work together, it greatly benefits all of them.


3 posted on 01/22/2022 6:44:01 PM PST by ClearCase_guy ("If you see something, say something?" I see people dying from vaccines.)
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To: elpadre

Who says that wasn’t their agreement???


4 posted on 01/22/2022 6:48:40 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: elpadre

Why shouldn’t Russia sell its gas to China when there are perpetual threats to stop European sales? First, Europe says gas is a “Kremlin’s weapon” and they are going to replace it with alternatives, both green and from other sources. Then they refuse to open a previously agreed pipeline.
Then Russia says Europe is not a preferred market anymore and rerouting East, the Europeans are panicking and scream bloody murder again.
Who are the idiot in this setup?


5 posted on 01/22/2022 6:50:22 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: ClearCase_guy

Also consider that North Korea has been present as observers during the last China-Russia military exercise. And what would you know, Kim Jung Un is up to his old antics again.


6 posted on 01/22/2022 8:47:02 PM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: elpadre

If Russia gets bogged down in a war in Ukraine it is far more likely that China will send “peacekeepers” into eastern Russia.

Then all of a sudden that $400 billion worth of gas already belongs to China.


7 posted on 01/22/2022 8:55:04 PM PST by Renfrew
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To: elpadre

If Trump was still president none of this would be happening.

Biden voters slam closet door shut turn light out.


8 posted on 01/23/2022 8:09:58 AM PST by Vaduz ( )
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To: elpadre
More goddamn useless Asia Times garbage.

This marks your 69th CCP-sockpuppet Asia Times article posted in 6 months. Did you think I wouldn't notice?

9 posted on 01/24/2022 2:14:14 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least 1 of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, Merck and GSK)
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To: elpadre
You know who Francesco Sisci is?

Of course you do.

Sisci is the one of the more wretched China-worshipping gobshite mandarin dinks that Italy has ever created, Franny holding the dis-dink-tion of "the first foreigner admitted to the Graduate School of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS)". Wow, such an honor. *spit*

Sisci now unhappily serves as Xi's scowling sockpuppet at Renmin University of China in Beijing.

But wait, there's more...

Sisci served obligingly to derail Mike Pompeo's critical Vatican mission in Sept. 2020, when Pompeo went on behalf of the free world to give Pope Finnochio the truth: that the phony 2-year 'deal' Finnochio crafted with Xi "had not shielded Catholic or other religious minorities from persecution by the regime."

Mike Pompeo to warn Vatican the devil’s in the detail of its China deal

ROME — When U.S. President Ronald Reagan visited Pope John Paul II in Vatican City in 1982, the leaders immediately found a common cause in their opposition to a shared enemy: communism.

As U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo touches down in Rome Tuesday, it seems unlikely he can count on the Holy See’s backing in the new cold war between the U.S. and China.

In a climate of growing mistrust of Beijing and condemnation of its maltreatment of minorities, Donald Trump’s administration has joined a chorus of critics pressuring the Vatican not to renew a two-year bilateral pact with Beijing on the appointment of Catholic bishops.

“The CCP’s abuse of the faithful has only gotten worse. The Vatican endangers its moral authority, should it renew the deal,” Pompeo warned.

Benedict Rogers, activist and founder of Hong Kong Watch, said the Vatican’s China agreement comes at a time of “the worst crackdown on human rights since Tiananmen Square and worst oppression on religion in all its forms since the Cultural Revolution.”

The deal has “bought the pope’s silence” over the suspected genocide of the Uighurs and repression in Hong Kong, Rogers said. “They may have recognized the pope’s authority, but at too high a price — the pope is undermined and there is no benefit on the ground.”

“After 70 years the whole church in China is united in communion with Rome,” said Francesco Sisci, a sinologist at Renmin University of China in Beijing. “All bishops are recognized by the pope and none are outside his blessing.”

Sisci is uno bugiardo patologico speciale, even amongst most of your comrades. But then birds of a communist feather defrock together, don't they, elpadre? LOFL!

Now here's the kicker. Who was the next fellow traveler compagno di viaggio quoted in the Politico article? Why, none other than the Comrade-In-Chief of your shitty blog post!

"The Vatican deal sends the message that religion can exist under the authority of the Chinese state, giving an indication to other faiths that a good rapport is possible, said Father Lorenzo Prezzi, editor of a Catholic publication settimananews.it."

The Politico author, an American Leftard journolist covering Italy and the EU, knew exactly which 2 stranos to call -- and only 2 -- for the obligatory Politicrap kowtowing, deep shite-ing on Pompeo's Vatican visit: Prezzi, and his contributing writer Sisci.

10 posted on 01/24/2022 3:01:51 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least 1 of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, Merck and GSK)
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To: elpadre
You'll never post here again (including your lucky post #11 lofl), without someone reminding every Freeper that you are a CCP-simp, an old mandarin who Xi is deepry concerned that your urseress-eater rong-age why-you-still-here-COVID-shout-housie-housie determine ru cannot kowtow deeply enough, ralso failing in your mission to convince running-dog Amerikan ruh ruh ruuuh how deepry disregusted that constitutional conservatives frail to runderstand communrist principrals! Why ru permit one Freeper to see through ru? You frail, elpadre! Breeg time!

L O F L

Rosy upsides to Xi’s neo-socialism --- If the US wants to meet China's challenge, it must recognize the real strengths of the equitable system Xi has put in place -(Oh shite it's) Francesco Sisci (Settimana News), as posted by elpadre

12 posted on 01/24/2022 5:44:24 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least 1 of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, Merck and GSK)
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" I am over 90 years now and have learned a lot over the years."

"When I was a recruit there were only classes on the job to be performed (marksmanship, bayonet training, pulling the pin of a grenade, etc) At the end we went home for a week and then straight to Korea, except for those selected out for Leadership School. At the end of that school you were made a sergeant and sent straight to Korea, except for a few selected out for OCS. Six months later you are a second lieutenant and sent flown straight to Korea in a hurry. Nothing political at all in those days."

If you are Samuel David Hawkins, the American Army defector to China during the Korean War, who would be the same age as you claim to be -- over 90 -- I have one word for you: *spit*.

13 posted on 01/24/2022 5:50:54 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least 1 of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, Merck and GSK)
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