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The campaign to ban gas stoves is heating up
Yahoo! News ^ | January 16, 2022 | by Mike Bebernes

Posted on 01/16/2022 1:16:08 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Over the past three years, dozens of cities across the country have banned natural gas hookups in newly constructed buildings as part of a growing campaign to reduce carbon emissions from homes. The movement scored a major victory last month, when New York City’s outgoing Mayor Bill de Blasio signed into law a ban on gas hookups in new buildings.

Though new laws apply to the entire home, the policy debate often focuses on one room in particular: the kitchen. Gas stoves account for a relatively small share of the emissions released by a typical household, but they’ve become a proxy for a larger fight over how far efforts to curb at-home natural gas consumption in the name of fighting climate change should go.

The debate over gas stoves is really a two-part conversation, with one element focusing on the environmental harms of at-home natural gas consumption in general, and the other specifically on the indoor pollution that gas cooktops create.

Climate change activists see gas bans as a powerful way to reduce the greenhouse gases created by buildings, which account for about 13 percent of total U.S. emissions. They argue that — unlike burgeoning technologies like a green power grid and electric vehicles — clean alternatives to gas heaters, appliances and stoves are readily available to most consumers. Critics of the bans, on the other hand, are skeptical of how much they’ll really reduce emissions, worry about increasing costs for homeowners and argue that market-based solutions will be most effective at promoting a transition to electrified homes.

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To: Fai Mao

“In an earthquake prone area I could understand this. But as an environmental issue it is silly.”

The newer HDPE mains are more resilient in such cases. New gas services have EFV (Excessive Flow Valves) installed that shut off the flow of gas if the service line is broken such as the meter set is broken off a riser.


41 posted on 01/16/2022 3:45:10 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying Too All.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Inflation, fuel shortages, supply chain issues, economic stagnation...and these clowns are doing this.


42 posted on 01/16/2022 3:56:04 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Dalberg-Acton

“My propane stove saved the day last February here in Central Texas. Ercot cut off the electricity, so the central heat (also propane) couldn’t be used. The stove kept the house above 50 thru the ordeal.”

That is exactly why they do not want that option available. You didn’t freeze to death like they wanted you to.


43 posted on 01/16/2022 4:11:15 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Good luck trying to warm up your soy burgers and chai latte’s over a candle when the power goes out ya morons.


44 posted on 01/16/2022 4:14:21 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying Too All.)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

You just shot down the Anti Gas idiots in one comment.

Well done!!!


45 posted on 01/16/2022 5:04:07 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: Dalberg-Acton

I lived in my freightliner in North dakota.
Every truck would be running all night long but not mine.
I fixed up a stand and hung my ventless propane stove, cranked my window down a little and slept in peace.
Now Im in arizona and when we lost electricity i just got my stove out and my girl and I stayed toasty in our house


46 posted on 01/16/2022 5:22:56 PM PST by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Over the past three years, dozens of cities across the country have banned natural gas hookups in newly constructed buildings as part of a growing campaign to reduce carbon emissions from homes.”

Playing pretend allows them to not work on all the issues tearing these cities apart.


47 posted on 01/16/2022 5:24:20 PM PST by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I hope they do ban them and gas heaters. And then a 10 day blizzard hits and knocks out the power.


48 posted on 01/16/2022 5:27:31 PM PST by sport
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To: Openurmind

Your propane stove kept your house at 50 degrees? Impressive.


49 posted on 01/16/2022 5:28:27 PM PST by NetAddicted ( Just looking)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

You absolutely can cook and warm over candles millions of hardcore backpack trekkers do it all the time. I have cooked hotdogs,spaghetti, baked beans,spam,Hormel beef stew...drool after a long day of trekking Hormel beef stew hot from the mess kit is good eats. Their cornbeef hash in the tin with some carefully transported eggs is Bfast of champions on the trail.

https://zenstoves.net/Wax.htm


50 posted on 01/16/2022 5:51:50 PM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: NetAddicted; Dalberg-Acton

“Your propane stove kept your house at 50 degrees? Impressive.”

I was actually quoting Dalberg-Acton so I pinged him and will let him reply to you.


51 posted on 01/16/2022 5:57:16 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: joe fonebone

What is the heat source when temps are -12 and -50º ?

Just curious.


52 posted on 01/16/2022 6:04:25 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi

Meant to ping you to #52.


53 posted on 01/16/2022 6:05:18 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: Jane Long

Gas forced air....best heat out there


54 posted on 01/16/2022 7:10:14 PM PST by joe fonebone (bush league chamber of commerce worshiping republiCAN'Ts are the enemy)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Over my dead body.


55 posted on 01/16/2022 7:14:54 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: Dalberg-Acton

We heat with wood and have hot water courtesy of propane. We have a backup genny to run the well pump.


56 posted on 01/16/2022 7:16:48 PM PST by Noumenon (Black American flag time. KTF)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If they're banning it, it means the politicians haven't figured out how to control it.

-PJ

57 posted on 01/16/2022 7:23:52 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: joe fonebone

That’s what we have, in balmy and mostly warm Texas :-)


58 posted on 01/16/2022 7:56:14 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No one can tell me that leftists actually give a crap about people. They 100% don’t.


59 posted on 01/16/2022 9:06:15 PM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: Jane Long

Those are Canadian temps virtually no where in the lower 48 will ever get to 50 below. The Canadians use a lot of Hydro and nuclear power seems to work for them. In the eastern part of Canada they have special rates of power for electric heating either a flat rate or a separate power meter for the hot water for radiators or resistance coil heaters. Hydro power is already cheap in Canada as is nuclear power Ontario is over 60% nuclear powered only France has a higher percentage of total power from nukes. Only in the western provinces will gas or oil heat be used. Alberta and BC have access to gas fairly cheaply but the rest of Canada does not most is not anywhere near a gas grid.


60 posted on 01/16/2022 9:16:13 PM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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