Posted on 01/16/2022 9:44:54 AM PST by Hojczyk
In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600, 50-watt chargers at an estimated cost of $24 million and a supply of 30 megawatts of power from the grid. That is enough to power 20,000 homes. No one likely thinks about the fact that it can take 30 minutes to 8 hours to recharge a vehicle between empty or just topping off. What are the drivers doing during that time?
ICSC-Canada board member New Zealand-based consulting engineer Bryan Leyland describes why installing electric car charging stations in a city is impractical:
“If you’ve got cars coming into a petrol station, they would stay for an average of five minutes. If you’ve got cars coming into an electric charging station, they would be at least 30 minutes, possibly an hour, but let’s say its 30 minutes. So that’s six times the surface area to park the cars while they’re being charged. So, multiply every petrol station in a city by six. Where are you going to find the place to put them?”
The government of the United Kingdom is already starting to plan for power shortages caused by the charging of thousands of EVs. Starting in June 2022, the government will restrict the time of day you can charge your EV battery. To do this, they will employ smart meters that are programmed to automatically switch off EV charging in peak times to avoid potential blackouts.
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“No business owner thinks the government funds innovation and employment”
Top 100 companies in the Us and the money they receive in subsidies in the billions from the US govt. Is your company listed?
Rank Parent Subsidy Valuesort icon Number of Awards
1 Boeing $15,374,228,475 1,522
2 General Motors $8,236,574,470 766
3 Intel $6,004,762,638 146
4 Alcoa $5,805,613,652 173
5 Ford Motor $5,665,318,864 601
6 X-Energy LLC $5,297,302,367 13
7 Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company) $4,825,691,168 73
8 NRG Energy $3,921,376,589 279
9 Cheniere Energy $3,864,202,239 24
10 General Atomics $3,537,371,171 407
11 Amazon.com $3,522,918,174 286
12 Sempra Energy $3,363,986,694 44
13 Southern Company $3,207,505,461 119
14 NextEra Energy $2,858,193,244 62
15 Stellantis $2,601,662,312 204
16 General Electric $2,576,928,716 1,972
17 Tesla Inc. $2,506,116,253 115
18 Summit Power $2,332,190,078 9
19 Iberdrola $2,287,706,336 111
20 Lockheed Martin $2,115,204,934 1,009
21 Raytheon Technologies $2,109,557,532 1,578
22 Nike $2,104,917,829 138
23 Mubadala Investment Company $2,035,954,929 55
24 Walt Disney $2,021,189,822 208
25 Brookfield Asset Management $2,008,815,624 261
26 SCS Energy $1,927,236,683 10
27 Archer Daniels Midland $1,889,111,134 1,094
28 Venture Global LNG $1,869,575,000 2
29 Sasol $1,851,232,180 68
30 Cerner $1,826,761,779 36
31 Nissan $1,826,106,415 86
32 Royal Dutch Shell $1,822,610,637 131
33 IBM Corp. $1,790,639,936 517
34 Berkshire Hathaway $1,788,423,542 925
35 Apple Inc. $1,749,771,920 32
36 Cleveland-Cliffs $1,688,246,187 129
37 JPMorgan Chase $1,593,093,650 1,101
38 PG&E Corp. $1,568,027,901 27
39 Samsung $1,546,467,340 61
40 Battelle $1,504,147,932 39
41 Energy Transfer $1,417,661,764 77
42 Northrop Grumman $1,393,496,966 488
43 Volkswagen $1,380,425,142 206
44 ViacomCBS $1,329,740,953 264
45 Corning Inc. $1,271,107,141 359
46 Duke Energy $1,246,537,671 63
47 Continental AG $1,241,208,157 95
48 Comcast $1,212,698,940 281
49 NuScale Power $1,156,699,634 30
50 SkyWest $1,151,116,966 519
51 Jefferies Financial Group $1,120,662,497 27
52 Abengoa $1,082,660,583 62
53 Alphabet Inc. $1,025,017,207 61
54 Exxon Mobil $1,021,177,998 140
55 Exelon $1,015,625,393 92
56 Toyota $1,003,008,541 183
57 Valero Energy $954,453,341 163
58 Pyramid Companies $924,509,423 78
59 Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc. $900,000,000 1
60 Air Products & Chemicals $885,158,490 247
61 Delta Air Lines $878,378,816 24
62 Centene $872,154,432 51
63 Cree Inc. $856,527,702 153
64 Meta Platforms Inc. $848,186,648 45
65 Bayer $844,553,003 205
66 EDF-Electricite de France $839,414,818 61
67 LG $825,859,672 99
68 CF Industries $810,715,945 59
69 Microsoft $810,265,387 84
70 Nucor $808,997,440 144
71 SunEdison $807,246,758 116
72 Goldman Sachs $798,273,074 254
73 E.ON $798,057,496 36
74 OGE Energy $795,643,965 11
75 Texas Instruments $795,572,241 60
76 Michelin $769,030,427 89
77 AES Corp. $751,108,474 79
78 Triple Five Worldwide $748,000,000 4
79 EDP-Energias de Portugal $733,674,868 14
80 AT&T $712,033,954 679
81 Johnson Controls $706,474,420 134
82 American Electric Power $698,001,802 80
83 Bank of America $695,987,310 906
84 General Dynamics $673,504,044 355
85 Sagamore Development $660,000,000 1
86 Caithness Energy $656,728,390 25
87 FedEx $649,429,268 558
88 Dominion Energy $642,882,353 78
89 Apollo Global Management $621,104,537 242
90 Ameren $618,093,398 11
91 Bedrock Detroit $618,000,000 1
92 Dow Inc. $616,670,237 594
93 Honeywell International $605,352,444 731
94 Mayo Clinic $592,118,103 14
95 Wells Fargo $581,052,070 477
96 Sears $574,182,077 93
97 Invenergy $573,139,535 21
98 Hyannis Air Service Inc. $553,329,635 242
99 Clean Coal Power Operations $550,000,000 1
99 Sematech $550,000,000 3
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You facts do not support your communist viewpoint. You claim a subsidy is innovation and operation funding. What a communist moron.
“What does that have to do with the govt funding companies?”
To an idiot communist like you, I didn’t expect you to understand.
I’m still waiting for my pig to fly..... will touch base back when it does.....
“You mean all these tech companies getting $110 billion from the gov’t to help fund their R&D research and development?”
It isn’t that simple, commie. You have a childish and simpleton view of money.
Setter in freepmail: “is your company in the top 100 list?? I bet it is.”
If it is then I am the expert in my company’s finances and where funding is applied, not you.
P.S. You shouldn’t try to use FReepmail to harass people. That’s a communist ploy right there, Sunshine, trying to hide your comments.
“No business owner thinks the government funds innovation and employment”
The US gov’t pays out billions in subsidies to attract companies to relocate to the US. That is funding employment.
As part of the agreement, Foxconn was set to receive subsidies ranging from $3 billion to $4.8 billion (paid in increments if Foxconn met certain targets) over fifteen years. Had it been paid out, it would have been by far the largest subsidy ever given to a foreign firm in U.S. history.
Foxconn in Wisconsin - Wikipedia
Define ‘subsidy’, commie.
The government makes purchases and you and your fellow liberals define them as subsidies.
“The US gov’t pays out billions in subsidies”
Pays? Define ‘pays’, commie. Did they get a taxbreak? That ‘subsidy’?
The word ‘pay’ means to give cash. Did they get cash, commie? No? Have you been lying about these ‘subsidies’ as ‘payouts’?
“You claim a subsidy is innovation and operation funding. What a communist moron.”
The billions US farmers get every year in subsidies is not funding their operation??
The billions in subsidies US companies receive every year from the gov’t what is it used for other than funding research, innovation and operational funding?
pm the company name you work for and I will see if they get subsidies from the US govt.
How many people are going to spend more then a couple of hours in all of the establishments you have listed just to charge a battery??
Only a communist thinks the government has money. ALL money is derived from private industry.
“Only a communist thinks the government has money. ALL money is derived from private industry”
Keep stretching and moving the goalpost.
There is a Walmart near me that has two charging stations...I would guess there are at least 200 cars in the parking lot...
How many people are going to spend more then a couple of hours in all of the establishments you have listed just to charge a battery??
The “Superchargers” give a 200 mile charge in 15 minutes.
The new battery by Quantamspace will be fully charged in 8-10 minutes. Not out yet but it will be in a few years.
may they get a dead short
That is currently vaporware for most of the nation.
“That is currently vaporware for most of the nation”
113,600 public ev charging station in the US..not counting the ones at home.
Electric vehicle charging stations and outlets in U.S. - Statistahttps://www.statista.com › ... › Vehicles & Road Traffic
4 days ago — In January 2022, the U.S. had almost 113,600 charging outlets for plug-in electric vehicles (EVs). A considerable sum of these chargers is ..
electron mass =
9.10938356 × 10^-28 grams
size of electron:
The upper bound of the electron radius of 10^−18 meters
Earth/Diameter
12.742 million meters [order of magnitude, 10^6]
Earth Mass: 5.972 × 10^24 kg
Increase size of electron by 24 orders of magnitude: 10^6 meters.
Increase mass of electron by 24 orders of magnitude: 10^-4 grams.
Feathers weigh maybe a couple of grams.
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