Posted on 01/16/2022 9:44:54 AM PST by Hojczyk
In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600, 50-watt chargers at an estimated cost of $24 million and a supply of 30 megawatts of power from the grid. That is enough to power 20,000 homes. No one likely thinks about the fact that it can take 30 minutes to 8 hours to recharge a vehicle between empty or just topping off. What are the drivers doing during that time?
ICSC-Canada board member New Zealand-based consulting engineer Bryan Leyland describes why installing electric car charging stations in a city is impractical:
“If you’ve got cars coming into a petrol station, they would stay for an average of five minutes. If you’ve got cars coming into an electric charging station, they would be at least 30 minutes, possibly an hour, but let’s say its 30 minutes. So that’s six times the surface area to park the cars while they’re being charged. So, multiply every petrol station in a city by six. Where are you going to find the place to put them?”
The government of the United Kingdom is already starting to plan for power shortages caused by the charging of thousands of EVs. Starting in June 2022, the government will restrict the time of day you can charge your EV battery. To do this, they will employ smart meters that are programmed to automatically switch off EV charging in peak times to avoid potential blackouts.
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“Why do you want to force me to buy an EV?”
I can care less what you drive around in.
I am countering the outright lies and mistruths being spread here usually by the same people over and over again.
It makes conservatives look like ignorant luddites.
How many apartment complexes are you aware of that offer charging stations?
“Don’t forget battery replacement costs $22,500 ouch!!”
Toyota said their new batteries will last 15 years. Federal law requires car companies replace current batteries if they fail within 10 years.
The feral government will do the mainstreaming by limiting the supply of gasoline and diesel and virtually outlawing new gas powered vehicles, as is now being done in commiefornia.
Unless your smart meter turns it off of course.
Of course YOU also ignore the fact that if you live in an apartment complex, you won't have that luxury unless the 200 unit complex decides to install 250 charging stations throughout the parking lot.
And what kind of source is it going to take to accommodate all those stations with the vehicles plugged in over night while the tenants sleep?
Or they’ll just tax gasoline up the wazzoo
“AND I have to amortize the cost (higher) of buying the electric model of my chosen sedan, AND amortize the cost of the degrading battery.”
You do, of course, pay off the battery in either case. But the problem is that most owners don’t realize that anymore than they amortize the cost of the engine. So, as long as the fiction of not having to amortize the cost of the battery can continue, the apparent cost of driving will seem much lower than a gas vehicle. But triple the cost of ‘filling up’ because the battery depreciation has to be included, and now the apparent per-mile ‘benefit’ is gone and people will bitch that their charge-up costs as much as gasoline would cost.
In the end, they’ll see it in resale value regardless...as seen here:
https://www.endurancewarranty.com/learning-center/finance/electric-vehicles-declining-resale-values/
“How many apartment complexes are you aware of that offer charging stations?”
Apartment complexes are putting them in all around the US. There is even a website for EV owners that list apartments with charging stations in their area..
Cost of charging station has come down rapidly. A home level 2 charger ran 5000.00 2-3 year ago now you can get them for $699 at Lowes or Home Depot.
Here is one apartment with chargers.
https://www.apartments.com/the-view-at-polaris-columbus-oh/q01rmcz/
I see you’re not much of a fan for free markets.
Where?
You actually think somebody is going to leave their car plugged into a charging station while they spend a day at a theme park or for an hour and a half at a mall?
That's like parking in a gas station with the gas hose left in your car while you go shopping. Meanwhile, every Tom, Dick and Harry decides to drive up and put that ole nozzle in their car and fill up and drive away, leaving you with the bill for not only your gas but theirs.
Ain't gonna happen.
There is a lot of merit to the idea that banning ICE is extremely bad. Not just for farms, but all industry requiring lots of horsepower. I recently watched a video on how landfills for garbage are operated. Lots of huge diesel powered tractors moving dirt, and others pushing garbage and compressing it on hills that are then covered with dirt, and each evening covered with tarps by other machines on a daily basis. Then there are the hundreds of semi-trucks that deliver garbage daily to the landfill. EVs could not handle a fraction of the work. No ICE vehicles would have civilization grind to a halt, as garbage overwhelms everyone.
“I see you’re not much of a fan for free markets.”
Tesla sold 450k ev’s in 2020 and 900k in 2021 and could have sold 200k more but supply chain issues held them back.
220,000 pre orders for the new F150 lightning
Porsche sold more EV’s than gas in 2021.
No one is forcing people to EV’s. They want them Jim.
“Federal law requires car companies replace current batteries if they fail within 10 years.”
Do you have a reference to that ‘law’, as I’ve heard there are loopholes within it.
“Of course YOU also ignore the fact that if you live in an apartment complex, you won’t have that luxury unless the 200 unit complex decides to install 250 charging stations throughout the parking lot.”
That would worry me, but since all apartment owners are rich, I don’t see a problem with requiring them to install the charging stations.
“You actually think somebody is going to leave their car plugged into a charging station while they spend a day at a theme park or for an hour and a half at a mall?”
Six flags, Disney all installing charging stations. I’m sure it works on a valet system once your car is charged they drive it to a parking spot. I’m sure Disney will have the process all worked out.
I had a couple EVs as a kid. They were called Sizzlers.
I seem to remember that they looked a lot like Tesla Model Ss.
You may be able to find comparable electric and gas powered chainsaws, but if you’re going to claim a battery powered saw can keep up with a professional grade chainsaw I have to call bullfeces. Let me know when you see a logger using a battery powered chainsaw. Now, they might be useful for limbing and other light work since they don’t have to be started, but it ends there.
“You may be able to find comparable electric and gas powered chainsaws, but if you’re going to claim a battery powered saw can keep up with a professional grade chainsaw I have to call bullfeces.”
I was referring to the normal homeowner size, not commercial use models.
How many units vs. how many chargers? I saw no mention nor any photos of the on site charging systems. Maybe you could provide them?
Do you really think that if there were even a limited number of charging stations in an apartment complex and a resident decided to hook up for the night that someone wouldn't come along and remove the charge hose from your car and charge up their car while you were sleeping?
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