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Report: Russia now has 265,000 troops near Ukraine border
AMN ^ | 12/22/21 | Ryan Morgan

Posted on 12/23/2021 10:08:32 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

Russia now has about 265,000 troops stationed within 250 miles of its border with Ukraine, according to a new assessment of troop movements by Ukrainian Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Oleksiy Danilov.

Danilov revealed the assessment of Russian military activity during a visit to the Ivano-Frankivsk region, the Ukrainian state-run National News Agency of Ukraine (also known as Ukrinform) reported on Wednesday.

Danilov said of the 265,000 Russian troops, 122,000 are located within 200 km (125 miles) of the Russian border with Ukraine. Another 143,500 troops are located between 200 and 400 km (250 miles) of the Ukrainian border.

Danilov’s assessment represents an increase in Russia’s troop presence in recent days. For weeks, Russian troops have been massing near the Ukraine border. Until now, assessments have put the number of Russian troops near Ukraine’s border at between 80,000 and 110,000.

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KEYWORDS: eu; putin; russia; ukraine
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To: hinckley buzzard
What happens when you trap a grizzly bear in a corner? Who would be so stupid? Answer: Too many people conditioned to hate and won't even revaluate what's happened since 1990.

jmho

61 posted on 12/23/2021 9:04:29 PM PST by duckln ( )
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To: BenLurkin

Putin has been in power for 22 years straight now. He has been saying to Russians that if there was some other president, then Russia would collapse.

He doesn’t like Russians seeing Ukraine right next to them, that has real elections, presidents change and the catastrophe does not follow.

That’s why he feels he needs to provide Ukraine with a catastrophe as a punishment.

Another part is that Russia is a poor kleptocracy and people are really poor there considering what one would reasonably expect from all their oil and gas wealth. Putin can’t easily blame his predecessors as he has been in charge for 22 years now and he can’t blame internal opposition because he has dictatorial powers.

That’s why he blames the US ... a good old Soviet technique. He is telling people that Russia is not going to fight against Ukrainians, but against some evil US plans.


62 posted on 12/24/2021 11:09:05 AM PST by Krosan
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To: Kazan
It’s time to tell Ukraine to give up on getting Crimea back and to let Donetsk and Luhansk go. And, that it will not be joining NATO.

Basically you'd be an idiot if you actually believed a declaration of "No NATO membership," or declaring they've given up on Crimea/Donetsk, would stop what is coming.

This war has been planned for some years and it doesn't appear anything is going to stop it at this point. We will be lucky it does not result in Poland and Romania being taken out next. Russia is already working on anti-Polish propaganda, depicting Poland as a "rogue regime" and puppet of NATO.

63 posted on 12/25/2021 10:54:52 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: duckln
Answer: Too many people conditioned to hate and won't even revaluate what's happened since 1990.

Since 1990, the FSB's people have been placed into every position (more opening up all the time) that permits appointment in the Russian government. Putin himself stated that the FSB is now "back in control of Russia, forever." The government IS the FSB. And the FSB is the direct successor, manned with the same people, who were in the KGB, housed in the same building that the KGB, NKVD, VsKGB, has always ruled from: the Lubyanka, where people are still taken, tortured, and murdered.

This is essentially the same thing as the Gestapo suddenly operating all of Germany post-war, except that the KGB/FSB/NKVD/etc., are responsible for the deaths of millions of people.

So total is the FSB's control over Russia that even the Russian Orthodox Church is operated by an FSB agent, Archbishop Kirill, who has a KGB codename and who was tasked with spreading Marxist Liberation Theology through the world council of churches as late as 2009 just prior to his promotion to run all or orthodoxy.

Not that that's a big deal since only 7% of Russians even go to church once a month! Religion in Russia is as fake as its priests.

64 posted on 12/25/2021 11:12:22 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

What is FSB?


65 posted on 12/26/2021 8:55:50 AM PST by duckln ( )
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
You're both a liar and idiot if you think Putin is going to invade nations or part of nations and take them over against their will. There IS NO EVIDENCE he would do that. That false assumption is the whole premise for unnecessary tension between Russia and this nation and the West, tension, at worst, that could lead to an unnecessary war.

Putin and the Russians are ABSOLUTELY right about both Crimea and Donetsk. The people in those region, of their own freewill, no longer wanted to be a part of Ukraine after the Ukraine revolution in 2014, which was both undemocratic and a violation of the Ukraine constitution. Revolutions have consequences. Part of those consequences is they divide a nation. Those that didn't want a revolution shouldn't be forced by Ukrainian government to be a part of Ukraine anymore. WHO THE HELL ARE WE to demand otherwise?

And, again, you fall right in line with Obama/Biden/Soros/globalist agenda to use Ukraine as a weapon to destroy Russia. That is the objective. And, there is no question those pushing that agenda are the aggressors in all of this.

People like you are dangerous. There is absolutely no reason for us to believe involved in anyway with a potential military conflict with Russia, which would leave us in peace if we returned the favor.

66 posted on 12/26/2021 8:58:42 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan
There IS NO EVIDENCE he would do that.

Only if you dismiss two invasions, one of Georgia and and another of Ukraine, as evidence lol. In which case, I'd call YOU the Liar and the Idiot for denying this. Remember when Russia used to deny the presence of Russian forces in Crimea and Donetsk, and then turned around months later to hand out war medals to forces that had occupied those areas? There never was any organic "separatists." They came from Russia and were trained in Russian FSB camps.

The people in those region, of their own freewill, no longer wanted to be a part of Ukraine

Based on what vote? Sevestopol in Crimea had 123% voter turnout due to obvious fraud. 98% of the peninsula, despite large numbers of Crimean Tatars and millions of Ukrainians, supposedly voted to split from the country. Meanwhile, all reports on the ground indicated almost no voter turnout in large swathes of Crimea:

"In Sevastopol, the largest city in Crimea, turnout for Sunday's referendum reached an astonishing 123% of registered voters. There may be an explanation for this number that doesn't involve the simple stuffing of ballot boxes:

"One reporter from Kiev showed his Russian passport and was handed a ballot and allowed to vote. This raised questions in Kiev if perhaps the Russian soldiers and Russian paramilitary occupying the area since late February had been allowed to cast votes."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidadesnik/2014/03/18/how-russia-rigged-crimean-referendum/?sh=45dbe4586d41

"Despite the reported unusually high voter turnout in Crimea, eyewitnesses stated that there were no lines and that many voting stations were nearly empty. This was just one of the irregularities reported during the “referendum”. Among others: Russian citizens who did not hold a Ukrainian passport were allowed to vote, and members of the so-called election commissions, accompanied by police, forced those who did not want to go to polling stations to vote in the street, according to censor.net.ua. Voter turnout was “reinforced” by nearly 90,000 phantom voters in Sevastopol. In late 2013 there were 385,462 citizens in Sevastopol, according to the Sevastopol Statistics Service. This number included children under 18 and other people not eligible to vote. However, Mykhailo Malyshev, Chair of the Crimea Supreme Council Referendum Commission, stated that in Sevastopol alone 474,137 voters participated in the “referendum”, making Sevastopol’s voter turnout 123 percent. Moreover, even those who decided against boycotting the “referendum”, did not have the option to vote for preserving the current status of Crimea: the ballots provided two unconnected options to vote for: either Crimea becoming a part of Russia, or the restoration of the 1992 Crimean Constitution with Crimea remaining a part of Ukraine.

https://uacrisis.org/en/831-crimean-referendum-fraud-neo-nazis-over-100-turnout

"The Russian government’s claims that the March 16 referendum in Crimea resulted in a 96.7% vote in favor of annexation were always extremely dubious. But now, as Paul Roderick Gregory of Forbes points out, a report by Russia’s official Presidential Council on Civil Society and Human Rights suggests that the real numbers were far different from those previously claimed:

"The website of the “President of Russia’s Council on Civil Society and Human Rights” posted a blog that was quickly taken down as if it were toxic radioactive waste. According to the Council’s report about the March referendum to annex Crimea, the turnout was a maximum 30%. And of these, only half voted for annexation – meaning only 15 percent of Crimean citizens voted for annexation.

"The fate of Crimea, therefore, was decided by the 15 percent of Crimeans, who voted in favor of unification with Russia (under the watchful eye of Kalashnikov-toting soldiers).

"Although the report appears to be absent from the English-Language Council website linked by Forbes, it is still available at the Council’s Russian-language website here. The report states that it is based on interviews with numerous Crimean officials, experts, civil society leaders, and ordinary citizens. Gregory has somewhat misinterpreted the figures there, which nonetheless are far different from those previously claimed by the Russian government."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/05/06/russian-government-agency-reveals-fraudulent-nature-of-the-crimean-referendum-results/

NOW Crimea might vote to remain with Russia... after all, Putin has stuffed the place with Russkies from the mainland, with some estimates indicating at least 1 million Russian orcs and goblins being moved into the place!

after the Ukraine revolution in 2014, which was both undemocratic and a violation of the Ukraine constitution.

What's more undemocratic: obvious voter fraud in Crimea, or the Ukrainian parliament unanimously voting to remove the Russian puppet after he had already fled the country, followed up with multiple elections where 70-80% of the population votes to resist Russian aggression and stay the course for NATO membership?

And, again, you fall right in line with Obama/Biden/Soros/globalist agenda to use Ukraine as a weapon to destroy Russia.

This is just your stupid BS "guilt by association" nonsense to ignore the vast criminal behavior of your KGB daddy in Moscow. There is no greater supporter for globalism than Moscow itself, which supports every communist nation and movement across planet Earth. And why not? 70-80% of the Russian government, for all those positions susceptible to government appointment, is staffed with KGB and current FSB members. Scores of KGB defectors all state that the fall of Communism in Russia was a sham: the KGB still runs the country!

Meanwhile, your other daddys, the Obama/Biden regime, is doing NOTHING while the "former" USSR prepares to take Ukraine.

But since you are a LIAR and an IDIOT, you choose to pretend otherwise, even blaming ME of being the leftwing propagandist! When it's YOU who are the useful idiot! LOL.

People like you are dangerous.

People like you are literally the tools of the KGB/FSB, an organization that has ruined the country and continues to instigate for the collapse of NATO and the world domination of international communism.

67 posted on 12/26/2021 9:14:34 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: duckln; Kazan

The current incarnation of the KGB. It stands for Federal Security Services.

Some more useful information, for you and for Kazan. Russia as a country controlled by the KGB-FSB, with communist ideology still very much alive, per KGB/FSB defectors and experts:

“In the context of Russia’s pervasive corruption—which blossomed particularly in local elections—the elimination of regional elections and the establishment of president-appointed positions appeared in many respects to be something good. But Putin began to appoint KGB-FSB officers to all vacant positions, as well as to all government and political positions of any importance. Not everyone understood what was going on, or not all at once. And when they did understand, it was too late. Between 70 and 80 percent of all top positions in the government had been captured by the security services and the military. For the first time in history, the country’s government had been taken over by the KGB-FSB—by people who had spent their whole adult lives working in the KGB-FSB system, who hated America and Western Europe, who had no positive program and no experience in building anything. They knew only how to control, to subjugate, to destroy. As with smoking and cancer, as with the Gestapo in Nazi Germany, not a single good word can be said in defense of this organization, which was not destroyed in August 1991 only because of a historical misunderstanding.”

Felshtinsky, Yuri; Pribylovsky, Vladimir. “The Putin Corporation: The Story of Russia’s Secret Takeover” (Kindle Locations 276-282). Gibson Square. Kindle Edition.

“The survival of totalitarian political structures in Russia and other East European countries depended, in large part, on the continued existence of the KGB (FSB/SVR). To change the name of this organization, and to change a few leaders at the top, did not signify anything other than window-dressing. “The Russian and Soviet ‘security organs’ have been reorganized and renamed many times in their history without these changes significantly affecting their personnel, their mentality or their operations,” wrote KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn in a 1993 memorandum to the CIA. “The recent reorganization and alleged reform of the KGB is no exception.”[57]

Preobrzensky, Konstantin; Nyquist, J.R.; Westerman, Toby; Kincaid, Cliff. Back from the Dead: The Return of the Evil Empire . Unknown. Kindle Edition (quoting Golitsyn’s The Perestroika Deception, pg. 215).

“Russian investigative journalist and political scientist Yevgenia Albats wrote, “there had never been any real question of disbanding the Committee for State Security [KGB].” She added that the stagecraft of 1991-92 was done “to dazzle the West. And it worked.”[58] On every side reforms were perverted and false fronts were erected. Tycoons were set up by the KGB, made into billionaires overnight; major industries were “privatized.” We know from the testimony of former KGB officers, like Victor Kalashnikov and Konstantin Preobrazhensky, that leading Russian “oligarchs” got their wealth from the Communist Party Soviet Union. There was never a question of them being real capitalists. According to Preobrazhensky, Russian billionaire Boris Berezovsky “did not conceal very much the fact of his being a KGB collaborator. Such collaboration in the Soviet period was normal for scholars of Jewish origin….””

Preobrzensky, Konstantin; Nyquist, J.R.; Westerman, Toby; Kincaid, Cliff. Back from the Dead: The Return of the Evil Empire . Unknown. Kindle Edition.

“Former KGB Lt. Col. Victor Kalashnikov, who has been laboring on an oral history of the Soviet Union, made the following statement in an interview: “There was not any moment … that the old system of KGB and nomenklatura admitted their failure or lost control. They just changed their form and appearance.” Kalashnikov, who worked in the Kremlin under Yeltsin, added: “There has never been any moment when they admitted historical defeat. There never was any serious step toward de-communization – never, never. The Yakovlev Commission was conceived to imitate de-communization procedures in Central Europe.””

Preobrzensky, Konstantin; Nyquist, J.R.; Westerman, Toby; Kincaid, Cliff. Back from the Dead: The Return of the Evil Empire . Unknown. Kindle Edition.

“I asked Kalashnikov whether he thought the fall of Communism was a sham. He replied as follows: ‘Yes, it was a fake, an imitation. From the very beginning the idea was, we’ll get back, we’ll modernize. And that’s how it happened. Of course, many Western observers were happy about the new faces and new styles and openness. But step by step … many American institutions here in Russia have been pushed out or brought under Russian control. So, formally, we have several Western bodies here allegedly doing democracy and consulting work, but in fact they have become an instrument of Kremlin policy to … exploit for their own purposes.’”

Preobrzensky, Konstantin; Nyquist, J.R.; Westerman, Toby; Kincaid, Cliff. Back from the Dead: The Return of the Evil Empire . Unknown. Kindle Edition.


68 posted on 12/26/2021 9:19:56 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Pilsner
Comancheria was an empire before Texas.


69 posted on 12/26/2021 9:22:32 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
. Russia as a country controlled by the KGB-FSB

Russia is controlled by Vladimir Putin.

And, stop pretending we're any freer than Russia under Biden or that Russia is North Korea or Cuba.

You've proven over and over again, you have a view of Russia that is 50 or more years outdated.

70 posted on 12/26/2021 9:23:11 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan
And, stop pretending we're any freer than Russia under Biden

What is this weird what-aboutism that you Putinists use? We are talking about the KGB: an organization that is responsible for imprisoning millions, putting down revolts, killing countless innocent people, and subverting virtually every aspect of America's institutions, making it the WORST criminal organization that has ever existed in history.

We have the KGB to thank for the left in this country, as it is DOCUMENTED to have infiltrated or outright founded almost every leftist institution in this country, such as the ACLU, Democrats like Obama (through KGB agent Frank Marshall Davis), and even Joe Biden was pushed into politics by a known KGB agent (whose name I can't remember at the moment).

ou've proven over and over again, you have a view of Russia that is 50 or more years

The KGB/FSB defectors I have quoted were saying these things within the past 10-20 years lol. Golitsyn is the oldest, writing in 1993. The others were writing in 2014 and a little later.

What "50" years? What have I said that is 50 years old? All of these events have happened recently! All of these quotes have happened RECENTLY! That goes for Russia's support of every single communist country and movement across planet Earth: Recently! Without Russia, Venezuela would have already collapsed, if not for Russian weapon sales, gifts of weapons and financial support--recently! Russia putting bombs right next to Japan: recently! as China was threatening to nuke them! Recently! Russia attacking and propagandizing Poland: Recently! Russian-Chinese joint exercises: Recently! Russian-China joint military preparedness and anti-satellite activities: Recently! Russia demanding the withdrawal of NATO from.. Germany of all places! From way back during the Georgia invasion to the present day! Recently! It's all recent, clown!

71 posted on 12/26/2021 9:31:19 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Some more useful information, for you and for Kazan. Russia as a country controlled by the KGB-FSB, with communist ideology still very much alive, per KGB/FSB defectors and experts
From Vlad's 4+ hour press conference, a few days ago, to your concern over the way the 'local' population is treated. You make it sound like hell but ~80% of Russians support Putin.
Vladimir Putin: Regarding torture and, in general, degrading and cruel treatment of inmates, unfortunately, this is not just Russia’s problem. If you look at what is going on at correctional facilities in other countries, you will see that they have as many problems as we do. This is a worldwide problem. Probably, there are countries and facilities where things look problem-free. However, there are lots of facilities in Europe, France, for example, or the United States, which, I think, do not exist even in third world countries. This is my first point.
Second, we are talking about developing the penitentiary system and the construction of new facilities. Take the Kresty prison in the Leningrad Region; we did build new blocks. Incidentally, this was done, in part, after I visited it – a long time ago though – and issued instructions. This must be done, because even the exterior of prisons is important.
As for the essence of the question, what information am I using? I use information from various sources. Not that someone brings me a document that makes me happy and I sign it. No, I analyse proposals like this based on the information that comes from different sources – I would like to emphasise this, after which I put my signature on it.
Are mistakes possible? Yes, it happens sometimes; life is complicated and diverse, and nothing can change this. But in this case, and considering what you have told us, the assessment of this situation must be based on information acquired during an investigation. Seventeen criminal cases have been opened and are being investigated. You have mentioned one or two persons, but I believe that over a dozen people have been fired and are being investigated. Let us look into the matter and figure it out.
I can assure you that not a single investigator has a personal interest in that case. This is the reason we separated the Investigative Committee from the Prosecutor’s Office. They are not connected, these two organisations, let alone prisons, which are subordinate to the Justice Ministry, not even the Interior Ministry, although it has been said many times that the penitentiary system should return to its old place to ensure effective investigations.
Yes, there is a problem. We should work at it calmly with a scrupulous and comprehensive investigation, at least an investigation of crimes that have been committed, and what we are talking about is definitely a crime. And the investigation must be brought to its logical conclusion, so that everyone can see that punishment for such crimes is inevitable. I believe that in this case we can reach a positive result.
Of course, we must also use the capabilities of human rights organisations. These questions are always raised during my meetings with members of the Human Rights Council, and I try to respond to them accordingly. This includes prison conditions, healthcare in prisons, and treatment of inmates.
I would like to point out once again that of course, people in prisons are criminals, and the inmates in pretrial detention centres are suspected of having committed crimes, but they are Russian citizens, they are human beings and must be treated humanely.
Let’s work together to improve this situation.
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67438
72 posted on 12/26/2021 7:18:29 PM PST by duckln ( )
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