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Illinois bill proposes to strip unvaxxed of their health insurance
Off Guardian ^ | Dec 8, 2021 | Kit Knightly

Posted on 12/09/2021 8:28:32 AM PST by Wish2Post

Illinois Representative Jonathan Carroll wants to push through a change to the state’s insurance law that would mean health insurers no longer have to cover unvaccinated people who get Covid, forcing people to pay their medical bills out of pocket.

The Democrat lawmaker told the Chicago Sun-Times:

I think it’s time that we say ‘You choose not to get vaccinated, then you’re also going to assume the risk that if you do catch COVID, and you get sick, the responsibility is on you,’”

The potential corruption and abuse of such a rule should be obvious to anyone familiar with just how mendacious insurance companies can be.

In all likelihood insurance companies will simply demand a negative Covid test before paying anything, and if you test positive, no matter what you were treated for, you will be called a “covid case” and forced to pay out of pocket.

The bill could, essentially, wipe all health insurance off the books for unvaccinated people.

The vaccinated should take no comfort from this, because their vaccinated status is entirely temporary, and subject to rules that could change on a whim.

Any “double jabbed” who misses a booster, or got a brand of vaccine that was subsequently unapproved or discontinued, or wasn’t updated for the latest variant, could suddenly find themselves one of the “unvaccinated” underclass.

Of course, once it applies to vaccination status it can apply to other things. You travelled to the wrong place, or you didn’t wear a mask, you “associated with known anti-vaxxers”.

And, even more concerning, is the potentially slippery slope this starts us down. Unvaccinated don’t get health insurance. Neither do smokers who get lung cancer. Or overweight people who get diabetes. And so on and so on.

The potential good news is that putting this law on the books would require a lot of legal workarounds, including violating or changing the Affordable Care Act, which outlaws removing insurance coverage from someone based on a new medical diagnosis or test result.

The editorial board of the Chicago Sun-Times already came out against the move, calling it unfair, warning of the same slippery slope I mentioned above, whilst at the same time arguing “the willfully unvaccinated should pay a price”, and be charged more for their insurance.

Given that response, it’s possible Mr Carroll’s role here is to set out an unacceptably extreme position, so the intended plan of higher insurance premiums for unvaccinated people seems more reasonable by comparison.

But, whether genuine or not, and whether it comes to fruition or not, the very fact the suggestion was made is a damning condemnation of the times. It would be a truly terrible precedent to set.

Once you start putting stipulations on healthcare, you don’t stop.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: health; insurance; unvaxxed; vaccine
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To: Wish2Post

Well...so much for healthcare being an individual right...


61 posted on 12/09/2021 11:00:08 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. The Dhimmicraps are ALL Traitors. All of them.)
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To: Wish2Post

When you vote for tyranny, you get tyranny...
NBD!
Illinois can live with their choices...


62 posted on 12/09/2021 11:21:03 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: Wish2Post

These dem scum bags screamed for years about how unfair it was for insurance companies to have a preexisting conditions clause, and then eliminated that issue with Ocare
insurance.

Now they want to eliminate health coverage for unvaxxed?

Why stop there you idiot, what about all the other diseases, like AIDS, that can be spread, and kill people. You gunna take their insurance away too?

Where is the rope.


63 posted on 12/09/2021 11:52:57 AM PST by Jonny7797
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To: Jonny7797

There is no vaccine for AIDS or HIV.


64 posted on 12/09/2021 11:54:30 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz

There is no vaccine for COVID, whats your point?


65 posted on 12/09/2021 11:56:13 AM PST by Jonny7797
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To: Jonny7797

Ah. Got it.


66 posted on 12/09/2021 11:57:04 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: Wish2Post

This will fail. They are truly evil.


67 posted on 12/09/2021 12:00:08 PM PST by Trillian
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To: Wish2Post

It’s for your health, you know.


68 posted on 12/09/2021 12:01:48 PM PST by CFW
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To: metmom

I’m saying that if this passes in IL this Covidiot should be denied any service tied to obesity...

No idea how this is legal. People pay their premiums...they have a contract with insurance company—not this idiot or state of IL.

Interesting because I suspect this COVIDIOT has no problem with paying bills for illegals or transgenders.


69 posted on 12/09/2021 1:32:13 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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To: blackdog

But illegals and transgenders are fine...


70 posted on 12/09/2021 1:39:24 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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To: Freedom56v2

That works for me.

And I have no doubt you are correct, that special excluded groups will continue to get their preferential, free treatment.


71 posted on 12/09/2021 1:54:41 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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To: Wish2Post; All
Update:

Death threats scuttle COVID bill

A state lawmaker found out how unpopular his COVID-19 bill was – when he started getting death threats.

State Rep. Jonathan Carroll (D-Northbrook) introduced a bill to make COVID patients pay all their medical fees out of pocket if they weren’t vaccinated.

“I was called things like the n-word, I was called things like derogatory terms for homosexuals. I was called a Nazi. I was called a Communist. And my staff was called all those things. Part of my job, I understand, is people are going to say things that are nasty. But then they started threatening my family. And they started threatening me.

“They even made a threat to my synagogue.”

He’s called the police and is dropping the bill.

https://wtax.com/news/101101-death-threats-scuttle-covid-bill/

72 posted on 12/09/2021 2:58:19 PM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

He is droppingg the bill...Best news of the day!


73 posted on 12/09/2021 6:07:18 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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To: steve in DC

The current bunch in Washington has as much knowledge about economics as my old tom cat.


74 posted on 12/10/2021 12:49:20 PM PST by sarge83
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