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Parents of Michigan school shooting suspect plead ‘not guilty’ to manslaughter charges
Nypost ^ | 12/04/2021 | EILEEN AJ CONNELLY

Posted on 12/04/2021 7:33:37 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

The parents of a Michigan teen accused of killing four classmates with a gun his mom and dad bought for him have pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter charges.

Jennifer and James Crumbley each face four counts of involuntary manslaughter in connection with the Tuesday rampage blamed on their 15-year-old son, Ethan. Each count is punishable by up to 15 years in prison.

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KEYWORDS: crumbley; ethancrumbley; jamescrumbley; jennifercrumbley; manslaughter; michigan; oxford; oxfordhigh; parents; school; scrolldown; search
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Should have taken a plea. Jury will convict them in a hour.
1 posted on 12/04/2021 7:33:37 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

When will the charges for the school authorities be coming?


2 posted on 12/04/2021 7:35:31 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

What about the family and the enablers of the creep who drove through the parade?


3 posted on 12/04/2021 7:37:14 AM PST by P.O.E.
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Times have changed for sure over the years.

Back in the day when I was in high school it wasn’t uncommon
to see students driving a pick up truck with guns on a rack in the
window. If you didn’t have a pick up you put them in the trunk
of your car.


4 posted on 12/04/2021 7:42:59 AM PST by deport
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To: P.O.E.

If reports are true and they certainly look as if they are the father bought his 15 year old son a pistol. What you are trying to do is cheapen the potential felony by pointing to other crime that has absolutely no relation. All this, in an effort to score cheap political points. Think about it for a moment. Four children have died and will never see their families again because of the irresponsible actions of lousy parents. This is the 2nd amendment hill we wish to stand on?


5 posted on 12/04/2021 7:46:59 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: P.O.E.

pretty sure that scum bag is an adult.


6 posted on 12/04/2021 7:47:30 AM PST by Jonny7797
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Please tell the class what actual Law they broke. We’ll wait


7 posted on 12/04/2021 7:49:22 AM PST by cyclotic (I won't give up my FREEDOM for your FEAR)
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Michigan Elements of manslaughter:

That the defendant caused the death of the deceased victim, that the deceased individual died as a result of the defendant's action. That the defendant either:

1. intended to kill the victim

2. intended to do great bodily harm to the victim,

3. created a situation where the risk of great bodily harm or death was very high, knowing that as a result of the defendant's actions he or she knew that serious harm or death would likely result.

Looks like the charge is about #3 which maybe difficult to prove.

8 posted on 12/04/2021 7:51:40 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: deport

Yep....and you didn’t bother them because people respected guns then. Understood you didn’t handle them if you didn’t know how to. And even the kids wouldn’t let you get near their rifles.


9 posted on 12/04/2021 7:51:46 AM PST by caww ( )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The fact that neither the teacher, the counselor, nor the parents checked the kid’s backpack after seeing what he had drawn is inexcusable and likely criminal neglect.


10 posted on 12/04/2021 7:55:06 AM PST by G Larry (The "Racism" charge is code for "No Intelligent Argument")
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Should have taken a plea. Jury will convict them in a hour.

This was the arraignment. Plea deal comes later.

11 posted on 12/04/2021 7:55:41 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Jarhead9297

Well the parents are certainly guilty of negligence but I don’t see how they can get a conviction of involuntary manslaughter. But it’s evidenced the Prosecutor is an anti-gun person and also extensive work and awards with domestic violence and child abuse so she’s going after it all.

Unfortunately from the Prosecutors press briefing she dodged notifying the police and is responsible for much of the lack of communication with the police. I think she’s looking for fame.


12 posted on 12/04/2021 7:59:16 AM PST by caww ( )
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To: deport

Me too. My high school years were spit between city and country. Country school parking lot had plenty of rifles and shotguns in the rear window racks. Not so much in the city, but there were plenty of guns IN the school. ROTC would target and drill. Common to see them in formation in the halls with rifles.

Important difference is back then schools were more proactive in removing problem kids.


13 posted on 12/04/2021 8:03:51 AM PST by moehoward (.)
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To: Lockbox
If this sticks, American parents will be intimidated into not buying that first gun.

I have good friends who buy their children their first .22 at 18 .... all four children have been now so gifted, but the kids didn't stop there.

The two boys have a collection of deer guns and PP weaponry, the girls are ... lovely

14 posted on 12/04/2021 8:04:39 AM PST by knarf (?<p>Little kids grow up to be adults that get into powerful positions and act out their thoughts.<pg)
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To: cyclotic

Must be 21 to purchase a handgun. What the father did was act a a strawman purchase and illegal.


15 posted on 12/04/2021 8:05:28 AM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: caww

At the very least, it will cost the parents a lot of money defending themselves. And I don’t see a GOFUNDME account being created for these two.


16 posted on 12/04/2021 8:05:53 AM PST by euclid216
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To: knarf

got my .22 @age12 shot .22 on rifle club/team at 15 at high school...


17 posted on 12/04/2021 8:06:26 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It was not the buying of the gun that was the problem.

It was the failure to take reasonable steps to prevent harm with that gun.

The gun should have been secured safely away from Junior.


18 posted on 12/04/2021 8:09:15 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

but baldwin walks..........


19 posted on 12/04/2021 8:10:21 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Dems are salivating at the prospect of this farce. Parents might be guilty of neglect but not manslaughter.


20 posted on 12/04/2021 8:13:09 AM PST by plain talk
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