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An update from Australia about the COVID situation here and recently circulating stories.
Me | 2nd December 2021 | Me (Naturalman1975)

Posted on 12/01/2021 3:44:06 PM PST by naturalman1975

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To: hopespringseternal
This guy is a poster boy for why Australians are letting it happen.

Sadly, I agree. Give the guy a French accent and have him explain why the Germans moving the Jews out of Vichy France is in the best interest of France and of the Jews, and there you are.
161 posted on 12/02/2021 8:51:00 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: naturalman1975

Good information. Thanks for sharing it here!


162 posted on 12/02/2021 8:58:05 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: naturalman1975

Tell you what. You think your precious Australia is a beacon of liberty?

Why don’t you burn your Vax card and see how much liberty you’ll enjoy going forward?


163 posted on 12/02/2021 10:39:30 AM PST by P-Marlowe (I got the <ΙΧΘΥΣ>< variant. Catch it. John 3:16)
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To: P-Marlowe

Honestly, with my lifestyle, it wouldn’t matter much. Nobody has ever asked to see my certificate.

But, yes, not having one would impact me if I wanted to do some things.

But it’s a minor inconvenience to have one.

And, no, I don’t think Australia is a beacon of liberty. But I don’t believe any country on earth is, and I certainly don’t think the United States is either.


164 posted on 12/02/2021 2:23:06 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Thanks for posting.

As stated prior, there’s a small group of FReepers that are pushing a narrative, facts be damned.

Reports and observations that you have on the ground in Australia, if they don’t support their narrative, will earn you contempt and calls of being a Deep Stater.

Anyways, thanks for your insights.


165 posted on 12/02/2021 2:26:50 PM PST by Fury
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To: naturalman1975

You said you needed the vaccine for your job. If you refused you would have lost the fundamental inalienable right to the pursuit of happiness. I refuse to get the Vax. I’m willing to accept whatever consequences come from the exercise of my right to refuse to participate in a deadly experiment.

Would you be willing to take a stand for liberty and burn your Vax card as a protest against this tyranny?


166 posted on 12/02/2021 3:59:49 PM PST by P-Marlowe (I got the <ΙΧΘΥΣ>< variant. Catch it. John 3:16)
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To: P-Marlowe
You said you needed the vaccine for your job.

I do. But nobody's actually checked I've got it. If they ask, I will show them my certificate - but they haven't asked. And there's only a week left of our school year at this point (I'm a teacher) so I doubt I'm going to be. I'm not sure if this is a deliberate decision by the school's admin - not to ask - or it's just our general policy of ignoring government directives as much as we can (we're an independent school, not a government one, and we ignore quite a lot of what the government tries to tell us to do under all circumstances.)

Would you be willing to take a stand for liberty and burn your Vax card as a protest against this tyranny?

No, I wouldn't be. I don't see any value in that type of protest.

If I'd known mandates were going to be introduced, I might have reconsidered getting the vaccine. But I have got it, and I can't see any value in pretending I haven't.

I also feel I have a duty to my students to be there for them, and I would accept some personal restrictions on myself for their benefit - they come before me.

167 posted on 12/02/2021 4:21:40 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Thanks for the Frank discussion. Originally my objection to the jab was based on my religious convictions. I have been asked by my employer to fill out a form that indicates your vaccination dates or you have to fill out some form requesting either a medical exemption or a religious exemption.

I wrote a letter to the Senior partners at my firm telling them that while I have a religious objection to the jab, I would not be filling out any form with my signature expressing my request for an exemption. I don’t want an “exemption”. I just refuse to participate in this tyranny. I told them the day they require that is the last day I will work for them.

So far they haven’t requested that I fill it out.

At this point my political objections outweigh my religious objections. With a 99% recovery rate for people who actually get sick from this flu bug and a vaccine that neither prevents infection nor slows the spread, getting the vaccine is an exercise in surrender to tyranny and insanity.

There is no vaccine. You haven’t been vaccinated. Nobody has. You’ve been played.


168 posted on 12/02/2021 4:46:53 PM PST by P-Marlowe (I got the <ΙΧΘΥΣ>< variant. Catch it. John 3:16)
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To: naturalman1975
Maybe you might be interested in this
Inside Australia's Covid internment camp - 20:14
https://newtube.app/TonyHeller/RaTifoT
169 posted on 12/02/2021 11:18:50 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I’ve seen it.

She’s entitled to her views based on her experiences.


170 posted on 12/02/2021 11:48:31 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
at around 20:00 she said she was placed in there for stating she was tested when she wasn't. she wasn't placed in there because she was near someone. Then said if she doesn't corporate they will extend her stay.

171 posted on 12/03/2021 12:46:04 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I don’t believe everything she is saying is true, but as I can’t prove that, I wasn’t going to make an issue of it.


172 posted on 12/03/2021 12:47:27 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
ok... Thanks
I really do hope for the best with you and your family.

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" - Richard Feynman
My variation of Richard Feynman quote
"Science" is the faith in the ignorance of the experts"
173 posted on 12/03/2021 1:20:39 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: naturalman1975

I mentioned this ‘not a vaccine’ thing to my doctor. She said “No, it is not a vaccine.” Not a vaccine in the historical sense that preceding vaccines are ‘vaccines.’

This one argument (which involves the mRNA thing and spikes, etc.) so vexed CDC and the vax-supporting arm of the government that they actually went back and changed the definition of what a ‘vaccine’ actually is so that the argument (not a vaccine) couldn’t be used anymore. That’s a fact.


174 posted on 12/03/2021 1:44:51 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: naturalman1975

Thank you for update!


175 posted on 12/03/2021 2:16:38 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (This will be a hot extract.)
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To: naturalman1975

As you stated....”My theory - and I admit it’s a bit conspiratorial - is that Australia is currently the victim of a propaganda campaign that is being waged by the government of Communist China”.....

I certainly believe China is on that bandwagon pushing the propaganda and at least adding to it.


176 posted on 12/03/2021 2:26:37 AM PST by caww ( )
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To: naturalman1975; All
Thank you for the detailed analysis and report.

I have far less experience in Australia than naturalman1975.

I was only a visitor there over three years for about nine months total.

I circumnavigated Australia by car.

I spent some time in the Northern Territory.

My observations confirm Naturalman1975's analysis and reporting. His reasoning is very persuasive. The conditions I observed in the Northern Territory are consistent with what he reports.

I had not considered the now obvious possibility of an extensive Chinese Communist Party (CCP) disinformation campaign to cause a split between Australia and the United States.

It is a win-win for the CCP.

My observations while in Australia also convinced me of a strong push by the CCP to become dominant there.

177 posted on 12/05/2021 3:27:39 PM PST by marktwain (Amazing people can read a persons entire personality and character from one photograph.)
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To: naturalman1975
It’s not the nicest system. But it’s where I’m useful.

That sentence absolutely rings true with my experience in Australia.

178 posted on 12/05/2021 3:39:12 PM PST by marktwain (Amazing people can read a persons entire personality and character from one photograph.)
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