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To: AB AB AB

Broaden that out a little bit... What about protecting your community? What about helping the injured? What about making sure a business owner isn’t destroyed?

Can you possibly imagine those as legitimate motives to show up?


Have you studied the self defense law in your state?

Are you familiar with how your local prosecutor interprets the law?

Almost every state prosecutes vigorously people who put the value of property above the value of a life, no matter that the thief is a scumbug. Might not be fair but we must understand that when you are being prosecuted, the court does not care what you think is fair. They interpret the law in every way possible contrary to your best interests.

So you can’t shoot people who are burning your business, much less a business not your own.

You will also find that “protecting your community” is not a valid defense in court.

Every single person knowledgeable on the subject will tell you that you should call the cops.

Aiding an injured person is an entirely different subject, a red herring here.

Self defense laws are very much a trap for those who have not carefully studied them and rehearsed scenarios over and over to the point that they do not make a mistake when under pressure.

But the bottom line is that a person must be confronted with a deadly situation, in fear for his life or severe bodily damage, or that of his family or another person.

Kyle’s situation was definitely dangerous to his life and he was well within the law.

But I will ask you a question: There is a terrible riot going on outside your yard, about a block down the street. People are getting hurt, buildings are burning...
would you give your 17 year old son an AR-15 and tell him to go solve the problem...or would you call the cops? And remember, the reason for the trouble is that the city officials are not supporting the cops. The cops are not there because they know they will be stabbed in the back by the mayor and his pals....so you would be sending him into a mess that the cops will not touch. You would not.


348 posted on 11/19/2021 3:27:48 PM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: old curmudgeon
Almost every state prosecutes vigorously people who put the value of property above the value of a life, no matter that the thief is a scumbug.

However; abortionists get a pass.

387 posted on 11/20/2021 3:55:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: old curmudgeon
Every single person knowledgeable on the subject will tell you that you should call the cops.

So THEY can shoot the arsonists and protect the community?

388 posted on 11/20/2021 3:57:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: old curmudgeon
Not our problem son.

Screw the neighbors.

389 posted on 11/20/2021 3:58:39 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: old curmudgeon

has to change take a few down and the rest will take notice...your do nothing is like an ostrich, bury your head in the sand...you disgust me. when the govt doesnt work who is going to fix it? self protection is an american tradition..one reason for 2nd amendment.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/28/us/la-riots-korean-americans/index.html


391 posted on 11/20/2021 4:11:01 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: old curmudgeon
"Broaden that out a little bit... What about protecting your community? What about helping the injured? What about making sure a business owner isn’t destroyed?

Can you possibly imagine those as legitimate motives to show up?"

Almost every state prosecutes vigorously people who put the value of property above the value of a life

So you can’t shoot people who are burning your business, much less a business not your own.

You will also find that “protecting your community” is not a valid defense in court.

He wasn't protecting property, he was protecting his life against men who tried to disable, disarm, and possibly kill him.

You're mixing up the apples and the oranges.

Remember, you're the one who said KR never should've been there in the first place. We've given you plenty good reasons for a concerned citizen to be involved. Then when he was attacked, he exercised the right of self defense.

There is a terrible riot going on outside your yard, about a block down the street. People are getting hurt, buildings are burning... would you give your 17 year old son an AR-15 and tell him to go solve the problem...or would you call the cops? And remember, the reason for the trouble is that the city officials are not supporting the cops. The cops are not there because they know they will be stabbed in the back by the mayor and his pals....so you would be sending him into a mess that the cops will not touch. You would not.

Probably most of us would not. But for the brave souls who do go, the least we owe them is our respect and gratitude for having something heroic deep inside that you and I apparently lack. What sickens me is the armchair quarterbacks calling morning-after plays from their computer screen about "never should have gone in the first place." Thank God the whole world isn't full of these "wise" people who talk big and do nothing.

394 posted on 11/20/2021 5:23:32 AM PST by AB AB AB (Dan Rather: "I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things.")
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