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To: Oshkalaboomboom

they won’t work either ...they get government handouts.

plus my concern here is we are seeing a contraction in business that no one is talking about

the focus is on the labor shortage and wages, yet everyone I know has raised wages and yet the problem persists

Economic experts are now saying wages are not the problem and are trying to determine what the underlying issue really is?


8 posted on 10/25/2021 3:23:39 AM PDT by EBH (Never trust the government or a politician . 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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To: EBH

Mr. Anti-Labor strikes again.


12 posted on 10/25/2021 3:42:48 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: EBH

Quality of life is part of it... extra money in a family is suppose to bring extra happiness. Turncs out that’s not as true as people thought.

Companies in the past were loyal to employees - that’s not the case today. Companies will go with whoever is cheapest - illegals, foreigners, whoever rocks their bottom line.

That matters.

Feeling a large chunk of your life is spent for the benefit of people who don’t give a damn about you is rough. Pearls before swine as they say... Ask police officers who offer up their lives for cities that fire them if they don’t get jabbed. Talk about zero loyalty. It’s the same, but not as dramatic down the line wit other businesses.

Similar to when conservatives realized we didn’t matter to the Never Trumper/Bush type ‘elites’... That no matter how often we voted for them - they would never be loyal back.


16 posted on 10/25/2021 3:59:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (Military suicide deaths last year: 580 - by COVID:56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOC_dcuJO48)
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To: EBH

I think in some cases the problem may be that there simply aren’t enough people in existence to fill all the open positions. In my area it seems obvious that many of the industries are competing for the same low-skill, entry-level labor. Restaurants can’t find staff because Walmart hired them all … then they left Walmart to go work for Amazon … etc., etc.


18 posted on 10/25/2021 4:04:16 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: EBH

determine what the underlying issue really is?>>> Maybe the pandemic fear porn worked.


32 posted on 10/25/2021 6:17:22 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: EBH
Economic experts are now saying wages are not the problem and are trying to determine what the underlying issue really is?

I suspect the real "problem" is either businesses really don't want to hire people or the HR systems of major corporations have become so complicated that they can't effectively hire people.

I have heard from people who got the "Thanks for joining our team" email from a major mass retailer but then no further communications, and when they go in person to the store that they applied to work at the manager says "sorry, I can't help you since all the hiring is done through corporate".

There are many examples of this kind of situation. Supposedly desperate employers are passing by qualified applicants as they look for the optimal person defined by some computer model running in the HR department.

37 posted on 10/25/2021 6:39:08 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: EBH

Imho the biggest shock to the labor market has been the baby boomers dropping out of the labor market, whether for full or part time work.

Fear of Covid started the trend last year.

The red hot stock market gave many seniors with retirement savings there less need to work.

Many have interesting hobbies which became small work at home businesses.

That is a big chunk of the low wage labor market, since traditionally many seniors would semi-retire and keep a low wage job on the side (partially for the extra money and partially for the social contact).


41 posted on 10/25/2021 6:53:05 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: EBH

the focus is on the labor shortage and wages, yet everyone I know has raised wages and yet the problem persists = raise them even more.


79 posted on 10/25/2021 2:15:06 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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