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The Car Shortage Is About To Get A Whole Lot Worse
Jalopnik ^ | October 19, 2021 | Steve DaSilva

Posted on 10/20/2021 2:00:56 PM PDT by Pilsner

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To: Pilsner

Australia and Guinea were the 2 leading suppliers through 2019...maybe China bought their mines and thus these sources are counted as China? I question the source as I can’t see how China could have unseated both of them and became the frontrunner.


121 posted on 10/20/2021 5:09:39 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Romans Nine

Well the pursuit of low cost auto parts went:

US >> Mexico >> China

but now I see lots of stuff coming out of Vietnam, Indonesia, and India.

Because the Chinese are no longer at the bottom of the wage totem pole.

Same thing with fabric clothes and shoes.


122 posted on 10/20/2021 5:10:42 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: Pilsner

Arkansas has bauxite in a 270 square mile region but mining waz reduced to a trickle in 1981 for some reason. About that time Reagan found that US strategic bauxite reserves were short and so signed for purchasing the shortfall from Jamaica.


123 posted on 10/20/2021 5:12:12 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Pilsner

There is some global warming interest and speculation at work with these particular resources....

https://m.miningweekly.com/article/exxaro-targeting-manganese-bauxite-copper-as-part-of-decarbonisation-strategy-2021-09-20


124 posted on 10/20/2021 5:13:56 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Got fifty cents a pound for extrusions a few days ago.  Cans, I think were eighteen cents.
125 posted on 10/20/2021 5:33:11 PM PDT by pa_dweller (Let's all go out for ice cream.)
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To: Pilsner
https://aluminiuminsider.com/aluminium-scandium-alloys-future/

Snip " In a nutshell, researchers claim that scandium provides the highest increment of tensile strength per atomic percent than any other alloying element when added to aluminium.

However, there is no known big commercial use of scandium, and the global yearly demand for the metal is relatively very small, around 20 tonnes. The reason for this is usually found in scandium’s low concentration and its difficulty in separating it from the ore, pushing costs to elevated levels (according to recent figures, around US$7000 /kg of concentrate), thereby hampering its commercial use."

There is a large deposit of Scandium in the US in Elk Creek Nebraska and a US Company is attempting to mine it if they can get the support. They already have the permits needed. They do not really want any $ from the USgovt. (NioCorp / Elk Creek Development)

126 posted on 10/20/2021 5:34:04 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Dr. Sivana

“Do you get rust on them in WA? “

Not in my part of WA State. In fact, I had to use dilute sulfuric acid to put “fake” rust on a rat rod project.


127 posted on 10/20/2021 5:35:40 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: MNJohnnie

This is the hard way to learn that we should not be dependent on any one supplier for over 50% of anything. The world is too big not to have multiple suppliers. Hopefully, all the idiot bean counters who always pushed the powers that be to the lowest cost regardless of the ending will now reevaluate what they have forced the country into. It’s time for CEO’s to be CEO’s not last quarters profit idiots.


128 posted on 10/20/2021 5:38:59 PM PDT by rodguy911 ((FR:home of the free because of the Brave---),ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL IT'S NOT)
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To: Pilsner

>>And the hits just keep coming!<<
Right? I wonder how these leftist could engineer such a multi-faceted collapse in just 10 months.

They’re certainly good at what they do.


129 posted on 10/20/2021 5:39:05 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Pilsner

Think of Obama’s ‘Cash for Clunkers’ program. Where they bought back old cars from the dealers and destroyed them. The thinking was, it would stimulate new car sales by shrinking the used car market. It hurts working people who can’t afford a new car. Now 7 years later, there is a car shortage.


130 posted on 10/20/2021 7:39:38 PM PDT by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; ...

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131 posted on 10/20/2021 7:39:39 PM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=50%>)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Aluminum wheels are over 1.00 a pound. Aluminum cans are 45 cents a pound

Average car wheel weighs 17 pounds.


132 posted on 10/20/2021 7:53:03 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said thein story was false!)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Smith & Wesson made a number of lightweight revolvers using scandium.


133 posted on 10/20/2021 8:01:19 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Pilsner
The situation in the US, luckily, is a bit more optimistic. While not nearly on the scale of China, the US is a global producer of magnesium as well. As long as American auto plants can get their hands on enough semiconductors, production shouldn’t quite hit a total standstill.

Let's home Biden's commies don't shut down our Magnesium mines...

134 posted on 10/20/2021 8:05:13 PM PDT by GOPJ (Military suicide deaths last year: 580- By COVID:56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOC_dcuJO48)
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To: Hootowl99

The Magnesium cell buildings at Dow were torn down a long time ago. I’m doubtful that they still make it anymore.

I worked several summers in Mag III. Hottest place this side of hell.


135 posted on 10/20/2021 8:05:52 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: Pilsner

When you read headlines too fast, it comes out as “The Cat Shortage Is About To Get A Whole Lot Worse”.

Had to slow down and re read it.


136 posted on 10/20/2021 8:07:09 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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To: Hootowl99

https://www.chemicalonline.com/doc/dow-to-exit-magnesium-business-0001

As I thought. Gone, and good riddance


137 posted on 10/20/2021 8:08:20 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: maddog55

Why in the hell does the song Draggin the Line keep running through my head now? That song had nothing to do with fast cars..and pimple faced chicks.

On reflection. If I had that didge I had again I would get my buddy, take a gallon of gas, go in front of the five and dime in Iron Mountain Michigan, and do a little flame burnout. Just like I did back then.


138 posted on 10/20/2021 9:05:08 PM PDT by crz
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Thanks for the information. I left Dow 10-years before the shutdown and hadn't heard of this before.

About 1979, Dow built a semi-plant mag purification plant as the final step before going to full size commercial. The responsible big dog manager decided a pilot plant wasn't needed for whatever reason. So…. It was $10MM capital down the tubes when the process didn't pan out as projected.

I was doing some work adjacent to the huge clarifiers in Plant B that (about 500ft diameter IIRC) used to remove precipitated contaminant inorganics from the seawater. One of the clarifiers had sheared a pin from torque overload on the plow arms and the clarifier was drained to remove packed in solids. They dropped a small bulldozer in the clarifier to push solids to the sidewall and a scoop would reach down to grab a bucket full for loading into dump trucks. IIRC correctly, the raw seawater intake for Plant A and Plant B mag production was something like 200-250K gpm. Lotta water….

139 posted on 10/20/2021 9:23:10 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: ml/nj

That is the Plan. My Man. It was the Plan when they stole the election. The Biden voters thought they were being cute. Those that wanted to get rid of President Trump thought they were being smart. They were digging their own graves. Let them enjoy it. They worked for it. Soon the grocery shelves will be getting bare. As in no goods to buy, use, and eat. Pricewise, food products are going sky high. But the Biden voters are not worried... The Government will just increase their food stamp allotment. They think. The experts predict a 56% increase in heating oil prices. Hopefully it will be a long cold Winter. with a jet stream front from the Artic Circle going down South to the distance from the Artic Circle at least once a month. See if the Man Made Climate Changers can’t laugh themselves to death. It will probably beat freezing to death.


140 posted on 10/20/2021 9:30:42 PM PDT by sport
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