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Why vaccinated people dying from Covid-19 doesn't mean the vaccines are ineffective
CNN ^ | Oct 19 2021 | Katia Hetter

Posted on 10/19/2021 10:17:56 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

Former US Secretary of State Colin Powell died on Monday of Covid-19 complications. His family announced that he was fully vaccinated. He was 84 years old, and had multiple myeloma, a blood cancer.

Health officials worry that anti-vaccine activists will seize upon Powell's death to make the claim that vaccines don't work. If you can still die after being vaccinated for Covid-19, what's the point of getting the vaccine?

CNN: When we see vaccinated people dying from Covid-19, how do you explain that vaccines are still worth taking?

Dr. Leana Wen: We need to start with the science and what the research shows. The Covid-19 vaccines are extraordinarily effective in preventing illness and especially severe disease. The most recent data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that they reduce the likelihood of testing positive for Covid-19 by six-fold and the likelihood of death by 11-fold.

That means that if you are vaccinated, you are six times less likely to get Covid-19 than someone who's unvaccinated. And you are 11 times less likely to die from Covid-19 compared to an unvaccinated person. That's really excellent.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


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To: redgolum

Hall of the Mountain Fauci

https://twitter.com/Americanka4/status/1447950635488399366


81 posted on 10/19/2021 11:48:11 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

i refuse to listen or take any medical advice from the former medical director of killing babies in the womb planned parenthood. nothing more that Fauci in a skirt and just as stupid.


82 posted on 10/19/2021 11:50:13 AM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger (I would give my right arm for a mean tweet right now)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

[[Why vaccinated people dying from Covid-19 doesn’t mean the vaccines are ineffective,]]

SURE it does! It is Exactly what it means! They are EXTREMELY ineffective for everyone who has died from covid

You can’t whitewash this with lies CNN- there are only 2 possibilities here- Either you are lying- or you are too dumb to realize that it actually does mean the vaccines are ineffective for certain people who are dying from covid after being vaxxed!

Which is it CNN? Are you just completely dumb? Or are you Lying?


83 posted on 10/19/2021 11:50:28 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: SaxxonWoods

“Which means the unvaccinated are doing better than the vaccinated and now represent a minority of cases.”

You get a cookie (gold start)... Spot on


84 posted on 10/19/2021 11:51:22 AM PDT by DEPcom (Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules)
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To: Maceman

It doesn’t mean they are effective either.
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Taiwan had televised their numbers, more people have died from the jab than those that died from the C flu. It appears time is beginning to tell the story…..now buckle down for when the masses realize the long term effects of the jab, populations will undoubtedly revolt violently.


85 posted on 10/19/2021 11:51:23 AM PDT by delta7
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To: DEPcom

Which means the unvaccinated are doing better than the vaccinated…
—————Numbers are starting to reveal another important fact, totally ignored.
Those that have had the C flu have long term immunity. Us old timers and “Purebloods” will be in high demand. Envision the time when companies will only hire Purebloods ( the Unvaxed). Go ahead and laugh.


86 posted on 10/19/2021 11:57:10 AM PDT by delta7
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Just 15 days more to flatten the curve and a few more booster jabs!


87 posted on 10/19/2021 11:58:44 AM PDT by WMarshal ("Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.")
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To: Antoninus

Answer: Because the jab was never about controlling COVID. It’s about controlling people.
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Many greats have written about Covid being used to crash the world economies, so the world can be rebuilt better….The Great Reset. There is 387 trillion dollars of debt worldwide, Fed Reserve overnight repos are exceeding billions of dollars of loans, unsustainable. Much written about the sinister Great Reset….it appears to be a plausible explanation for what is going on.


88 posted on 10/19/2021 12:03:22 PM PDT by delta7
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To: wrench

I commented the following on a thread a few days ago...
We need real data to be able to discern the truth of things..
Too much nonsense and politics from both sides.


A study that needs to be done, but which never will be is one with two large groups of people of various ages and conditions, both groups chosen to be very similar.

Group A is fully vaccinated
Group B is unvaccinated but they are taking prophylactics, i.e IVM, zinc,D3..etc

The data to be gleaned would include.

-The difference in number of covid deaths for each group.

-The number of deaths/adverse reactions from the vaccination in each group.

-The number from each group who contract covid but are asymptomatic.

-The Number from each who contract covid but have mild symptoms.

-The Number from each who contract covid and have severe symptoms.

People try to compare the fully jabbed to the un-jabbed.
That sort of comparison is faulty, common sense tells you that it could make a big difference if the un-jabbed were taking prophylactics.

This sort of study would settle the questions of both vaccine safety and efficacy as well as the value of the prophylactic medicinals.

I won’t hold my breath waiting for this study to be done.

It would also be interesting to study a group who was fully vaccinated AND taking prophylactic meds... might it be that the jabbed would suffer less from both covid and the side-effects of the jab?????


89 posted on 10/19/2021 12:12:46 PM PDT by Bobalu (Figure out what you like, learn enough to be dangerous, and then start fiddling around)
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To: Boogieman

Because they thought everyone would blame the dirty unvaccinated untermenschen if they mentioned that.

Otherwise known as the actual humans.


90 posted on 10/19/2021 12:15:41 PM PDT by Stentor ( )
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To: All

How many people died of Smallpox and Polio last year? So a Covid vaccine that has not stopped the death of thousands works? Now I know why the CDC altered accepted definition of a vaccine.


91 posted on 10/19/2021 12:22:02 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

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92 posted on 10/19/2021 12:31:31 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: redgolum
"Oh, and it works the other way. Some here had predicted to see ADE or OAS here by mid October (to be fair I said that if was coming we would see it by now!) While we are seeing many vaxed that are sick, we are not seeing huge signs of ADE."

My personal belief is while surely these is some ADE, we are not seeing ADE in gross numbers because the experimental serums just aren't any good!

93 posted on 10/19/2021 12:34:56 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least ONE of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Why vaccinated people dying from Covid-19 doesn’t mean the vaccines are ineffective ... without the miraculous high profits vaccine, they would have died a day or two sooner!


94 posted on 10/19/2021 1:14:13 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

Vaccines shouldn’t prevent the cause disease.

95 posted on 10/19/2021 1:15:56 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Is this a Monty Python skit?

“Just because they’re dead doesn’t mean the vaccine didn’t work”.

It’s surreal that they would even try to push this.


96 posted on 10/19/2021 1:30:47 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

CNN is 10 fold dumber than MSNBC which is 12 fold dumber Fauci and his science which has been proven to be wrong 90% of the time. The 10% he thought he was right he was wrong as well.

Dr. Leana Wen is known follower of Fauci and his wrongness!!


97 posted on 10/19/2021 1:32:37 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: maddog55

Dr Wen is an absolute lying bottomfeeder making her living as a TV actress-doctor instead of practicing medicine. She hates humanity, pure Evil. Here she is lying after the Bostom Marathon bombing with her fake tale:

https://mobile.twitter.com/wakeupfromcovid/status/1441796628814434304

She doesn’t even speak like a doctor; she doesn’t use appropriate medical terms. She does speak like an airhead, reading a script for her sponge-brained CNN audience.


98 posted on 10/19/2021 1:51:29 PM PDT by guthunde47
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To: SaxxonWoods
"Which means the unvaccinated are doing better than the vaccinated and now represent a minority of cases."

If 80% of a population of 100,000 (all older than 12) is vaccinated then 20% of that same population are unvaccinated.

Assume that this same population experiences 100 deaths and that 40% of such deaths are among the vaccinated.

That would mean that 40 people died among the 80,000 vaccinated and the other 60 died among the 20,000 unvaccinated.

The death rate among the vaccinated would be 40 per 80,000. The death rate among the unvaccinated would be 60 per 20,000 or 240 per 80,000. The RATE of death among the unvaccinated would then be six times greater than among the vaccinated.

You can certainly argue about whether the cost of such benefit is worthwhile. You can argue about whether the level of effectiveness is sufficient to meet certain goals.

What you can't argue is whether or not having one vaccinated person die instead of six unvaccinated is a good thing, in and of itself.

99 posted on 10/19/2021 2:05:16 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Former head of Planned Parenthood. She’s made a career out of rationalizing death.


100 posted on 10/19/2021 2:07:09 PM PDT by BigJimSportCamper
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