Here's reality.: Speech of Jefferson Davis before the Mississippi Legislature, Nov. 16, 1858
They said it was not about slavery.
The slave holding states were lying. You can post all of the quotes you like from the Confederacy about what they said it was about, and I'll give the same answer.
I don't care what they said otherwise, because they had already said it was about slavery numerous times, and they held on to their slaves until being forced to free them.
And you can post the denials 10 times but given that the leaders of both North and South said it was not "about" slavery you will get the same quotes that make exactly that point for so long as you try to claim that it was "about" slavery.
They were lying.
They offered slavery forever by express constitutional amendment. It failed because the original 7 seceding states rejected it.
Some in Congress offered it. No one supported it, with the exception of five states. The five states had plenty of time to ratify it, which means the rest had plenty of time and opportunity to ratify it if that had been their intention. It wasn't.
Abolition was NOT popular until late in the war.
How many free states were there in 1861?
Cheap labor? What do you think the North was using? They were importing poverty stricken Europeans and stuffing them into horribly unsafe, dirty factories and into equally dirty, shabby, unsanitary tenement housing. There was no tort law, no worker's comp, no child labor laws, no OSHA, etc etc.
Now I know you're a leftist plant. Comparing people who chose to come here for better opportunities with those who were sold as slaves is an appalling comparison that only a lefty trying to make the country look bad would post.
I know it was hard for the people who came over here by today's standards, but they saw it as a great opportunity worth risking their lives for.
He said the opposite many many times both before and during the war.
He was lying. He made ir clear here that it was about slavery.
There is nothing bad about wishing death to a tyrant before he can kill and maim a huge amount of innocent people.
That's what I would expect a lefty posing as a Conservative to say.
Would you have approved of assassinating JD and other Confederate leaders for their roles in preserving slavery?
We realize that you are a rabid abolitionist with scales over your eyes
The reality is the numerous statements by Davis saying it was not about slavery.
The slave holding states were lying. You can post all of the quotes you like from the Confederacy about what they said it was about, and I'll give the same answer.
They turned down slavery forever by express constitutional amendment....and that was the original 7 seceding states not the Upper South which seceded in response to Lincoln starting a war.
I don't care what they said otherwise, because they had already said it was about slavery numerous times, and they held on to their slaves until being forced to free them.
I don't care what any PC Revisionist says otherwise because the actors at the time on both sides said it was not about slavery and the original 7 seceding states turned down the offer of slavery forever by express constitutional amendment. Both sides kept their slaves until the passage of the 13th amendment.
They were lying.
No they weren't.
Some in Congress offered it. No one supported it, with the exception of five states. The five states had plenty of time to ratify it, which means the rest had plenty of time and opportunity to ratify it if that had been their intention. It wasn't.
Supermajorities in both houses of Congress supported it. Both the outgoing and incoming presidents supported it. More Northern states did not ratify it because the original 7 seceding states turned it down.
How many free states were there in 1861?
Irrelevant.
Now I know you're a leftist plant. Comparing people who chose to come here for better opportunities with those who were sold as slaves is an appalling comparison that only a lefty trying to make the country look bad would post.
Now I know you're an ignoramus. The North was using cheap immigrant labor. Working and living conditions in the early stages of the industrial revolution were squalid, dirty, unsanitary and unsafe. There is a reason all those developments such as tort law, worker's comp, OSHA, Child Labor Laws, etc came about.
He was lying. He made ir clear here that it was about slavery.
Nope. He was telling the truth. There is no reason to think the political leaders at the time on both sides were not saying what they meant.
That's what I would expect a lefty posing as a Conservative to say.
Being sympathetic to a tyrant who starts a war and tramples on the constitution is just what I would expect from a Lefty.
Would you have approved of assassinating JD and other Confederate leaders for their roles in preserving slavery?
They had no role in preserving slavery. Slavery was not threatened in the US.