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7 ways men live without working in America
Yahoo Finance ^ | Sept. 18, 2021 | Andy Serwer with Max Zahn

Posted on 09/27/2021 2:28:33 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie

Almost one-third of all working-age men in America aren’t doing diddly-squat. They don’t have a job, and they aren’t looking for one either. One-third of all working-age men. That’s almost 30 million people!

How do they live? What are they doing for money? To me, this is one of the great mysteries of our time.

I’m certainly not the first person to make note of this shocking statistic. You’ve heard people bemoaning this "labor participation rate," which is simply the number of working-age men (usually counted as ages 16 to 64) who are working or are seeking work, as a percentage of the overall labor force.

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30 million men on the dole?
1 posted on 09/27/2021 2:28:33 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

The age range is between 16-64....a bit of hyperbole by yahoo trying to get hits.


2 posted on 09/27/2021 2:31:28 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Good article—goes in depth on this topic.

Government has rewarded some activities and punished others..with both taxes and regulation (federal, state, local) that makes “not working” a reasonable choice for many...


3 posted on 09/27/2021 2:32:53 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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4 posted on 09/27/2021 2:36:15 PM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No China made, No Amazon)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I think most of those 30 million have asked me for money on the street here in New York City.


5 posted on 09/27/2021 2:36:41 PM PDT by free-in-nyc
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Cash under the table ends with with digital currency.


6 posted on 09/27/2021 2:38:34 PM PDT by Jonty30 (My superpower is setting people up for failure, without meaning to. )
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To: The_Media_never_lie

According to the author:

1. Unemployment insurance
2. Early retirement, pensions, disability and lawsuits
3. Savings, trading stocks, and bitcoin
4. Working for cash, aka the under-the-table economy
5. Living off family members
6. Illegal work
7. Living off the land


7 posted on 09/27/2021 2:39:20 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: free-in-nyc

Government has declared war on the working people in America. Biden says they must pay their fair share, to reward the new democrat voters who have just crossed the border.


8 posted on 09/27/2021 2:39:30 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The crowd was chanting "Death to America", but they were a mostly friendly crowd.)
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To: free-in-nyc
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9 posted on 09/27/2021 2:41:59 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan (God bless Karen and save her nation.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

IOW, not sure working it for the man.


10 posted on 09/27/2021 2:42:09 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Many work off the books of course. No payroll taxes; no employer portion of payroll taxes. No SDI, no workers comp insurance, no SS tax etc. Some are self employed doing odd jobs for cash. All cash business, non-reporting, on paper you look poor so you get benefits.

This is one of the reasons they want to snoop in on bank accounts with $600 or more. Same reason some states have cracked down on ‘gig workers’ even though they argued it as if they were doing uber drivers, piano players and independent writers a favor. Next they will go after various other independent operators like beauticians. They usually just rent space and get paid a lot in cash by their clients. Industries like that will be in the crosshairs soon enough. The $600 bank account thing is a blanket way to snoop in on everyone without having to target industries one by one.


11 posted on 09/27/2021 2:44:07 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

How many are earning unreported income?


12 posted on 09/27/2021 2:45:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Right Wing Vegan

I never give $ to panhandlers except once. I gave a dollar to a guy who had a sign that said “No Lies Want Beer”. The one honest panhandler.

I’m amazed at the fact that currently ALL panhandlers are disabled vets now. At least that’s what their signs say.


13 posted on 09/27/2021 2:48:11 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Wow! My 68 year old husband officially retired at 65. He couldn’t deal with “free” time. 2 years ago he started working part time for FedEx. He averages 55 hours a week.


14 posted on 09/27/2021 2:49:00 PM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: monkeyshine

I’d rather have a few people get away with unreported income than the IRS being even more intrusive. Liberals are totalitarian monster.


15 posted on 09/27/2021 2:49:25 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: ConjunctionJunction
Two things:

1 -- I plan to retire early myself in a few years (if before I turn 60 counts as "early"). So I'll be part of the 16-64 not working. I don't know why he stopped at 64 instead of, say, 60 or 62 (ages to collect SS).

2 -- I wonder how many of these 16-64 aged non-working men are illegal aliens? I'm sure there's TONS of under-the-table pay in that segment alone.

16 posted on 09/27/2021 2:51:03 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: cgbg

It’s called “Cash Business”! Jeez!


17 posted on 09/27/2021 2:51:35 PM PDT by gr8eman (When you're bought and paid for by commies...you're a commie!)
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To: ealgeone
"The age range is between 16-64....a bit of hyperbole by yahoo trying to get hits."

I agree. I skimmed the article and they made a few good points, but some were reaches. For example, they talked about increased purchases of vegetable seeds, suggesting that people are living off the land in large numbers. Raising enough vegetables to support yourself requires quite a bit of land, and is virtually off limits to apartment dwellers, condo dwellers, and even owners of many single-family homes in urban or suburban areas. My perception is that urban gardening is kind of a middle-class hobby, not something done for basic sustenance.
18 posted on 09/27/2021 2:53:09 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Sittin on the front porch playin the harmonica.


19 posted on 09/27/2021 2:54:21 PM PDT by Old Yeller (We're a nation of surprisingly talented people run by the least talented of us.)
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve known a lot of people - and hired a few - who demand payment in cash. They are usually self-employed handyman types who can do a little plumbing, painting, minor electrical work, carpentry, and gardening or yard work.


20 posted on 09/27/2021 2:56:06 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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