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LIVE: Watch the Robert E. Lee statue being removed from Monument Avenue in Richmond
Richmond Times-Dispatch ^ | September 8, 2021

Posted on 09/08/2021 6:31:39 AM PDT by Cecily

Watch a livestream of the Lee statue in Richmond being removed from its pedestal on Monument Avenue.

The stream, provided by VPM, will begin at 8 a.m. on Wednesday, and for the first hour the stream "will also feature relevant photos and footage related to the removal of the monument," according to a news release from the state agencies overseeing the project.

(Excerpt) Read more at richmond.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
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To: fireman15

Which is why when President Trump is back in place, he’s going to have sack everyone above the rank of Major/Lt. Commander.


121 posted on 09/08/2021 8:37:18 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (DEFEAT THE COUP D'ETAT BY THE STALINAZI DERP STATE !)
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To: crz

Perhaps they were discussing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=403Lr-TiB7c

Maybe substitute “Ulysses”?


122 posted on 09/08/2021 8:38:22 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Bull Snipe

Slavery was replaced by Share cropping as practiced in some places it was not much above slavery. Tractors and other mechanical farming ended that. So in a rough sense slavery lasted till the 1930s.


123 posted on 09/08/2021 8:40:04 AM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: bigdaddy45

Robert E Lee was a traitor according to you?

Pathetic beyond words.


124 posted on 09/08/2021 8:42:40 AM PDT by battletank
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To: wardaddy

“Attacking your ancestry personally”?? You mean she’s talking badly about your great great great grandpappy who you never met and know next to nothing about? How far back does your ancestry go that should be venerated?


125 posted on 09/08/2021 8:42:55 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Her father was a vet from WWII with Patton in Europe and he said he'd follow him anywhere. “He didn't make us do anything he wouldn't” - like swimming a river to cross it! LOL

My father-in-law spoke the same way about General Rose. My wife's sister was born on March 30, the same day that General Rose was killed. Every year at breakfast on March 30, my wife's dad would come to the table and say, “You all know what today is.” And my wife's sister would be beaming, “Today is one of the saddest days in history, the day that the greatest General ever was killed in combat.” and then he would add, “Oh and by the way... it is your birthday isn't it Esther?”

126 posted on 09/08/2021 8:43:02 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: gloryblaze

“ There is another thread on page one that implies it will be cut to pieces…”

One article stated it was cut in half at Lee’s waist to facilitate transport of the large statue.


127 posted on 09/08/2021 8:45:15 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: battletank

Let’s see. Led a secessionist rebellion to prop up and promote an inhumane and immoral institution? Yep, traitor sounds like a good word.


128 posted on 09/08/2021 8:48:00 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: wardaddy

First of all, I’m not female so knock it off. Second, I was never anti Trump. I told my brother early on that not only would he win the nomination but he’d likely win the election too. So either you have me mistaken for somebody else, or you’re a flat out liar.

Third, I’m not attacking anyone’s ancestry. But facts are facts, and Southerners should acknowledge them. No one alive today had anything to do with slavery. So lose the Strawman arguments too. I’m anything but PC.

And Grant was a better general than Lee.


129 posted on 09/08/2021 8:48:09 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: VanShuyten
One article stated it was cut in half at Lee’s waist to facilitate transport of the large statue...

No, the flat base beneath the hooves was removed by grinding the bolts that held it to the massive base it stood on. The figure remained intact.

130 posted on 09/08/2021 8:48:18 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: Bull Snipe

I get what you mean, but steam traction engines had existed since the 1850s and probably in solid usage by the 1870s.

And there were other great advances. Such as Cyrus McCormick’s reaper and John Deere’s steel plow. The Industrial Revolution included much of what we think as just “agricultural”.


131 posted on 09/08/2021 8:48:54 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: bigdaddy45

No, the point is you need to know the WHOLE truth, not the half-truths that BLM and other US-haters try to browbeat us (libel us) with as if it’s THE WORST THING IN THE WHOLE WORLD EVER.

Because, sorry, it includes the US, not just the CS. Or did you think that Yankee states were always non-slavery?


132 posted on 09/08/2021 8:55:51 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Cecily

No Thanks,
I don’t like to see our history destroyed by left wing freakin idiots .


133 posted on 09/08/2021 8:56:44 AM PDT by spincaster (i)
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To: gloryblaze

Photo of the top half of the statue is here:

https://apnews.com/article/robert-e-lee-statue-virginia-removed-92955a351d9fda6319f379ddc28df8a0

The statue was taken down whole and then later cut in half.


134 posted on 09/08/2021 9:06:01 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: wardaddy

It is tragic to have our very own Cultural Revolution. Our leaders surrendered our history, good and bad, into nothingness. I’m happy to be old.


135 posted on 09/08/2021 9:08:02 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: bigdaddy45

Except, of course, it changed the relationship of the states to the Federal government to the worst.


136 posted on 09/08/2021 9:09:05 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: VanShuyten

OMG. Butchered. I’m sure it will be welded back together, but it gives me the creeps to see that.


137 posted on 09/08/2021 9:09:23 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: Bull Snipe
I did indicate that slavery was doomed. I did not apply a timeline. There are a lot of issues that caused the Civil War; and, slavery wasn't the one most important to the Southerners.

Slavery is heinous. So is tyranny. We have a great deal of the latter right now; yet, nobody seems ready to lift a finger in order to stop it. What happened 180 years ago doesn't have the urgency of what we face right now in our Nation.

138 posted on 09/08/2021 9:13:46 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: bigdaddy45

Damn it I’m not female!

🤓


139 posted on 09/08/2021 9:17:46 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: the OlLine Rebel
The 4-volume bio of Washington that I read was by James Thomas Flexner. Before that I read the 4-volume R.E. Lee by Freeman. Considering the work Washington did to help form "a more perfect union", I cannot see him opting for state over USA. He did not agree with those that did not want to Federalize, and I don't think he would ever have agreed with secessionists. I think the similarity between the confederate and revolutionary armies was in the fact that all either needed was to instill enough war fatigue in the other side to make them give up. Washington (with French help) succeeded, the confederates did not.

One thing about the Freeman Lee bio: he wrote it with the "fog of war" in mind. Most of the histories I read describe battles as if the commanders of both sides know as much about the disposition of all the forces as we do. Freeman would tell us Lee's plans and actions based solely on what Lee thought was in front of him. It wasn't until the summation that he would explain the details of what was on the other side.

The Flexner books were similar. In the first volume, when Washington had not gone very far afield from Virginia, he only describes Washington's view of the world as a Virginian. We forget that people in those times were less familiar with the other states than we are today.

140 posted on 09/08/2021 9:41:31 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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