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Let's Stop Pretending About the Covid-19 Vaccines
MSN -- Real Clear Science ^ | August 24, 2021 | Buzz Hollander, MD

Posted on 08/25/2021 1:43:04 PM PDT by Jewbacca

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To: Jewbacca

I didn’t see any mention of ADE. If that is correct he swings and misses by a mile.


21 posted on 08/25/2021 1:59:19 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Responsibility2nd

Hmmm...

I have to wonder if we are about to see a narrative change on the jabs. It would be a good distraction to get Xidens Afgan disaster off the news, if/when when we leave Americans behind.


22 posted on 08/25/2021 2:00:16 PM PDT by matt04 ( )
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To: Jewbacca

I went to my local hospital for some tests today,refused to wear a mask.Police were called and they confirmed with the hospital that I had a fully confirmed appointment and said they couldnt charge me with trespassing.They suggested to the hospital they should accomdate me and proceed with my tests.The 4 nurses ordered to accompany me to my test said I was thier hero.I was the only unmasked person in the hospital.


23 posted on 08/25/2021 2:00:28 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: backwoods-engineer

JUST SAY NO!! My new motto.


24 posted on 08/25/2021 2:02:05 PM PDT by JoJo354 (Trump is still my President)
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To: Jewbacca

Try and solve the Riemann Hypothesis.


25 posted on 08/25/2021 2:02:31 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: BiglyCommentary

As noted, it’s a big, wide-ranging, fair article.

Everyone is easily offended now and has their pet issue.

So there is something included, something omitted, to anger everyone.


26 posted on 08/25/2021 2:02:54 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalemabcxp. A A)
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To: Jewbacca

There are no variants.

No death serum.


27 posted on 08/25/2021 2:03:22 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Jewbacca
We must allow for some very small chance the mRNA vaccines will be the first vaccines in history to have a hidden adverse effect

How many mRNA vaccines have there been?

We know HCQ failed

Not true but more to the point HCQ/zinc is effective.

Had officialdom not transparently lied, and had they not banned HCQ/zinc and Ivermectin/zinc I would have a lot more trust in them. As it is, I don't believe a single thing to come out of CDC.

The good doctor points out that there are a number of treatments that haven't been fully tested, and he's right. That was not an accident.

28 posted on 08/25/2021 2:04:20 PM PDT by marron
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To: EEGator

Oh, I solved 1/2 + it this morning.

Kind of trivial stuff.


29 posted on 08/25/2021 2:05:35 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalemabcxp. A A)
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To: Jewbacca

One of the various health officials today said on record, that we need to come to grips with the fact that being vaccinated keeps the people from spreading infection.

What reason is there to get a CV vaccine now except to limit symptoms? That makes it officially the same as Ivermectin, and other types of treatments, not a vaccine. They all weaken effectiveness over time, and you are still vulnerable to being sick.


30 posted on 08/25/2021 2:06:58 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: Jewbacca
The whole thing might have gone better had we stuck to telling the truth as we knew it

If by "we" the author means the medical community, he's right.

If by "we" he means politicians and the media, they do not know what "truth" is.

31 posted on 08/25/2021 2:06:59 PM PDT by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, sQiate armati!)
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To: Craftmore
The 4 nurses ordered to accompany me to my test ...

They were so concerned about your being a contagion risk that they ordered four of their personnel to stay close to you who would ordinarily not need to be.

Sounds like perfect Covid Era logic to me.

32 posted on 08/25/2021 2:07:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who shot Ashli Babbitt?)
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To: Jewbacca

Bill Burr made a good joke about pissing off both sides on Twitter.

“Donald Trump is such a jerk, he’s making me actually consider voting for a woman...”


33 posted on 08/25/2021 2:07:53 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Jewbacca

Here is the source-
https://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2021/08/23/lets_stop_pretending_about_the_covid-19_vaccines_791050.html


34 posted on 08/25/2021 2:08:01 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Supporter of America's last lawfully elected President Donald J. Trump.)
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To: Jewbacca

Does MSN know they have been hacked?


35 posted on 08/25/2021 2:09:15 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Jewbacca

This is a money maker for all involved. Hospitals love getting money. Research labs love money too. The Democrats have had an answer to a prayer drop into their lap.

From here on out they’ll go through every letter in the alphabet and back again in order to keep us using mail in ballots so they can cheat from now till the end of time.


36 posted on 08/25/2021 2:09:19 PM PDT by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses . Now governed by idiots.)
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To: matt04

“I have to wonder if we are about to see a narrative change on the jabs.”

Yeah, it’s curious to me. Two MSN articles.

I suspect the data from Israel on natural immunity, in particular, is becoming overwhelming, so they have to move forward. Bit like how they did with finally admitting it was a lab leak.

But they always have and agenda.


37 posted on 08/25/2021 2:10:14 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalemabcxp. A A)
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To: Jewbacca

How about : Let’s stop pretending that claims of “conspiracy theory” mean there is no conspiracy.


38 posted on 08/25/2021 2:10:15 PM PDT by A strike (Barr to Gitmo, Roberts to Florence supermax, HerrDoktor FauxiGates to TerreHaute)
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To: Jewbacca
We are confused and suspicious because we have been subject to confusing and contradictory information for 1.5 years.
Even from CDC and FDA alone.
On top of that we are told we are stupid or conspiracy nuts for not believing everything we were told.
Both CDC and FDA broke their credibility backbone over this, yet we are supposed to believe them now?

39 posted on 08/25/2021 2:10:58 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: \/\/ayne
As I understand it, a vaccine is a serum of dead target cells, or weakened cells from the target malady.

Our immuno-system takes it from there.

The COVID "vaccine" has NO covid cells and is a cocktail of "maybe's"

The sourcer is MSN - real clear science .... which I suspect

40 posted on 08/25/2021 2:11:18 PM PDT by knarf (qa)
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