Posted on 08/16/2021 4:22:50 AM PDT by Kaslin
For the past seventeen months, my family and I have purposefully and strategically declined to live our lives in fear. Instead, we have lived overwhelmingly normal lives, largely ignoring the milder but still ridiculous and unnecessary COVID restrictions and mandates imposed here in eastern Tennessee. We have traveled, flown twice, visited with family and friends, and haven’t hesitated to go anywhere in public that seemed fun to us at the time, from bowling alleys to jam-packed restaurants and bars.
Our view is that God (or fate, if that’s your thing) will determine whether or not we get COVID-19, that highly contagious respiratory viruses are gonna virus regardless of what humans can sustainably do, and that freedom-killing actions that have their own adverse effects are NOT sustainable, nor are they worth the cost for a virus that more than 99.5% of people survive.
We have also assessed the risk and chose not to take any of the available COVID vaccines. However, unlike others who will clearly judge our choice in this matter, we don’t judge others who choose to take them, and we even encourage it for some. It is and should always be a personal decision. For us, we just aren’t in any sort of high risk category with this, and at our age we are far more statistically likely to have a mild case than to be killed or even hospitalized. Plus, I’d much rather have the good old-fashioned kind of immunity, thank you very much.
Still, we aren’t anti-vaxx. In fact, as someone who hates any form of masking with the heat of a thousand suns, I truly was hoping that the vaccines would do exactly as promised and more. The idea, we were told, would be to vaccinate our way to “herd immunity,” and for a few weeks there, it seemed like it was working. Yes, as Alex Berenson kept pointing out, there was some disturbing data coming from Israel, Iceland, and other places well ahead of us on vaccines, but maybe, just maybe, it wouldn’t happen here.
But it is happening here, isn't it? So much so that the CDC retracted its original position on useless face burkas, as if those ever did any good. The vaccinated, you see, were also contracting and spreading the virus at an alarming enough rate to ‘force’ the agency to undermine its own vaccine messaging and withdraw their promise of a normal, maskless life for those who took the jab. But we still had to take it anyway, we’re told, even though the promise has morphed from ending the pandemic to preventing one’s own severe illness and death.
But what if we already aren’t at risk of severe illness or death? Taking all factors into consideration, my wife and I decided to take our chances with the ‘ro instead of getting vaccinated or making the past year and a half unlivable by attempting to avoid it. Yet somehow, despite all that, we did avoid it … until around three weeks ago, when we could avoid it no longer.
Yes, the ‘ro came for me and my family. So we got to experience, first hand, what all the hubbub was about. I’m a middle-aged man in decent shape for my age who rarely gets even a cold. I jog more than three miles four times a week, and I eat fairly well and take lots of vitamins, including D, C, and zinc. Given all that, I expected a mild case, and if I’m completely honest, what I got was definitely MORE than I was hoping for, though still technically mild compared to the experiences of many others.
Slight to moderate fever - check. Odd loss of taste and smell - check. Debilitating cough - check. Exhaustion - check. Better days followed by worse days to the extent that I genuinely wondered when the fun, er, hell was going to end - check. But in the end, my wife and I made it through well enough, eventually, and without even the threat of needing any sort of hospitalization. Oh sure, we got meds and followed our doctor’s care. We didn’t mess with it and we certainly took our treatment seriously. But when it was all said and done, the statistics were on our side.
As someone who’s pretty much a wimp when it comes to being sick anyway, COVID was definitely its own form of hell on earth. I didn’t enjoy it, not one bit. But looking back on it after finally beginning to feel human again, would I force one person, especially a child, to wear a mask for one minute to slightly lower my own chances of going through it? Hell no.
But, you ask, what if I, my wife, or someone else in our family had defied the statistics and been a fatal outlier? Would my tune on COVID have changed? I would argue no, because anecdotes aren’t a way to do public policy. Sure, this post would probably be different, if it existed at all, but it certainly wouldn’t be a retraction of all the facts I’ve gathered over the past two years. Because facts are facts, regardless of outliers. Going in, I fully expected to recover from this without being killed or even hospitalized, and we did.
Two of our children tested positive and they sailed right through it, much easier than we did, I might add. The other two didn’t catch it at all, almost to our chagrin. (Hey, we wanted them to have that awesome natural immunity!) At four of six and the other two probably immune themselves (how could they have avoided it?), our family is now a bastion of herd immunity, a better immunity - some studies are now saying - than any vaccine could possibly provide.
There are people like us who have lived their lives as normal, and caught COVID. There are also people who, as Ron DeSantis recently said, “were hermits for a year and a half that wore six masks” … and still caught COVID. The way I see it, it is people like us who have gotten the most out of life.
Labcorp in Florida admitted to me last Thursday they are running PCR test at 40 CT cycles.
I can not even mop or sweep my floor. All my son does sit’s or or lays in his room watches TV or plays games on his TV. When he does mop the floor it takes him all day. I miss my late son, but he passed away on September 1, 2012. He used to get seizures, but he was a great help to me.
“ Everyone who has not had covid needs to know how they would go about gettig those infusions”
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It looks like you have to be > 65 or heavy or > 55 with certain problems.
Freeper above linked to TN pdf from Jan. Looks like those are still the criteria.
I’m worried about my wife, she doesn’t seem to qualify based on that list, but does have other issues that put her at risk.
Do you have any info other than that published criteria for how you qualify, Rummy?
I remember that thread, it seems terart was put into ICU on a ventilator after she couldn’t get this treatment and wondered about taking more Ivermectin. I don’t know if she ever did take more but having read all that I would.
The Zelenko protocol and the FLCCC both have .4mg-.6 / kg (higher if in an area with aggressive variants)
So if my husband was just starting symptoms (he isn’t sick, just being prepared), at 190 lbs (86 kg) would take 34.4-51.6 mg of ivermectin?
That’s a lot higher than the 12mg that people have been saying on FR. I just want to be sure.
I am also making a list of monoclonal antibody treatment centers near me and checking with my doc if he would even prescribe it.
We are mid 50s, have no comorbidities that I know of (well, both of us are about 10 lbs overweight and I have IBS-triggered PVCs, but my heart is good)
I want to be prepared ... hubby has had several employees sick but it was very mild, since then we know one guy who died - young and no comorbidities, and a friend hospitalized but she has significant comorbidities
Do not forget the massive spreads of the virus from the FLOOD of illegals coming in from the south, 220,000 last month.
it requires certain parameters.
Btw, and if a person has an efgr that shows chronic kidney disease even if only stage 2...I would push that to try to get it.
They have relaxed it to if you have been exposed but have not tested positive yet.
America’s front line drs will do telemetry and prescribe. Might take awhile... it’s thru the mail.
We desperately want to see 5 granddaughters in Buff area.
One daughter wants social distancing..why bother?
The other daughter is getting pressure fr her siblings.
93 yo mother in law would welcome us! Go figure!
I pray NYS doesn’t get shut down again.. and that Hochul is reasonable.
That was why I posted it. The requirements are decided by the state you live in. I also hated to hear about the Freeper that passed.
FLCCC has revised their dosage instructions recently.
Dont know what they are.
There are telehealth doctors that will prescribe treatments. America’s Frontline Doctors, FLCCC, covidcriticalcare.com. Listen to Dr Peter McCullough bring news of a variety of treatments that work. Not just limited to Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. In listening to countless doctors across the internet, early treatment is the key. As one doctor put it, if you have a small fire in your kitchen you don’t wait til the house is on fire to call the fire department. Personally I take vitamin D3 with K2, Quercitin, zinc and vitamin C. Not everyday but at least 4 times a week.
The author failed to take an ionophore with his zinc and other supplements. An ionophore weakens the linings of the virus cell and allows zinc to attack it and prevent replication. Examples of ionophores are hydroxychloroquine, quercetin, ivermectin, etc. Quercetin is OTC.
I know it’s flame bait but I have been taking a weekly dose of Ivermectin, the horse stuff. I also take Zinc/Quercetin, D3, C, Magnesium, B12, Omega 3, Xlear, and others. My husband won’t take any of it except for the Xlear. The horse Ivermectin is safe. We gave it to our horses for years and never even gave it by weight. From little to big they all got the full dose. A man I worked with accidently took his dog’s Ivermectin pill once. He called his doctor and the doctor said not to worry because Ivermectin is Ivermectin and it wouldn’t hurt him. That was long before COVID. Anyway, I have been taking a weekly dose for three months without any side effects. Still, if I do get COVID, I will run human Ivermectin past my doctor along with the Monoclonal Antibodies.
I will definitely check out your link. We all need to check out the requirements of our state for the Monoclonal Antibodies.
The FReeper who died was a tragedy ... I believe the issue was that there was no medical care available until things were so bad, a hospital was necessary - the one place you absolutely want to avoid if possible. Personally, I think any doc who will not treat a fellow human being who is ill and possibly at risk for death, with early outpatient, home-based treatment, should not have a medical license. Just my opinion when I see all the totally NEEDLESS deaths.
That being said, THIS is the video and type of messaging that the government & medical community should have gotten out to every American when the CoupFlu first hit our shores. It is practical, common sense, good info, and hopeful. Please watch if you haven’t seen it already. I am going to list another one from a doc who IS treating patients early & the results.
BTW, knowing whether or not your doc will treat is important - saves time so you can go straight for telemedicine & there are several sources. My 88 yo mom has an appointment with her PCP this week and is asking the question of whether or not she’ll treat - we’re prepared for the answer to be ‘no’.
So here is the video ... ALL should have seen or be seeing:
Video by Dr. Elizabeth Lee Vliet, available at: https://www.truthforhealth.org/2021/06/covid-treatment/
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A doc who is treating EARLY home-based outpatient:
The Conservative Review with Daniel Horowitz
https://www.theblaze.com/podcasts/daniel-horowitz-podcast
Go to this episode:
Ep 934 | The CA Doctor Who Saved Thousands of Lives by Treating the Virus Early
Description
Doctors who refuse to treat the virus with numerous proven medicines are committing malpractice, according to today’s guest. Dr. Brian Tyson, co-owner of All Valley Urgent Care in El Centro, California, has treated over 6,000 COVID patients. Anyone who came to his clinic before day 7 of presenting with symptoms was cured without having to be admitted to the hospital. This is what the rest of the country would look like if other doctors would follow his guidance rather than the vacuous guidance of the government.
15 of our family members girly it on Christmas Eve. 5 came up with it and gave it to the rest of us except my son and daughter who had it 9 months earlier. We were all good even 3 that were very high risk. Now we all have natural immunity…
The Houston link you sent is from Jan like the TN pdf, but is less strict on BMI and has additional criteria.
I wonder if in the official guidelines there’s a catch all criteria that allows Drs a lit of flexibility.
I forgot to mention that a family friend thought he had a sinus infection and when he went to the doctor he had COVID. His wife had already had it once but she was checked and she had it again. The man was barely sick but his wife had to be admitted to the hospital the second time. After two days there they told her husband they were going to give her something that have her up and home in no time. He said they hooked her to an IV and she was better in 24 hours. She came home a day or two later. All total a almost a week in the hospital. I’m guessing she got the antibody infusion.
My 91 year old mom was of the same mind as your MIL these folks have been through WW11 and there is NOTHING they are afraid of, my mom was so damn sick of listening to the media and the fear mongering she would scream at the TV!! So many elderly dying without ANY loved ones near them is disgraceful cutting them off from their families was ridiculous and shameful!!
Sorry to hear about your situation. I pray God’s blessing and protection on your family. And by the way, you post some of the best stuff on FreeRepublic.
I read through one of the EUA. Seems kind of flexible with the High Risk requirement
So if you are older..say maybe over 40...you should look at your Egfr. I had no idea I have CKD based on that number because no Dr had ever told me.
You could then try to convince a Dr you are high risk. They may tell you that number is not enough to make the determination...but at least it is a start to try to get the infusion
THe other thing is a compromised immune system. Of course there are things we normally associate with that such as AIDS...but what about bone marrow disorders that cause wacky RBC. That is another avenue to look at if you arent fat enough or old enough
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