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FACT FOCUS: A false narrative of 74K extra votes in Arizona
apnews.com ^ | July 17, 2021 | ALI SWENSON

Posted on 07/17/2021 9:05:02 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Cyber Ninjas, the cybersecurity consulting firm hired by Arizona Senate Republicans to oversee a partisan review of the 2020 election, on Thursday pushed a false narrative that Maricopa County received thousands of mail-in ballots that had no record of being sent out to voters.

The firm’s CEO Doug Logan used the baseless claim to urge legislators to subpoena more records and canvass voters at home, grasping for evidence of fraud even as a hand count of a statistical sample of ballots and two post-election audits showed no proof of wrongdoing in Maricopa County’s election.

The false claim has reverberated online in the day since Logan’s comments, parroted by lawmakers and Republican commentators including Arizona Republican Party Chair Kelli Ward, Colorado Rep. Lauren Boebert and former President Donald Trump.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Georgia; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: aliswenson; arizona; audit; az; biden; electionfraud; fakenews; fraud; gaslighting; maga; media; nevertrumper; rinopost; spin; stopthesteal; tds; vote; voterfraud; xiden
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Ahh, the glow of gaslighting liars. Such a din! Fear is growing like Godzilla rising from the sea.


101 posted on 07/18/2021 10:58:39 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Berlin_Freeper

So an actual count is not better than a statistical sample count???

Did they actually say something THAT DUMB???


102 posted on 07/18/2021 10:59:10 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Hey AP it’s not ‘baseless’ anymore if they’re providing facts.


103 posted on 07/18/2021 11:07:00 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

Odd..........

A single statement by an AP reporter/propagandist is regarded as proof Trump lied.


So what else is new?


104 posted on 07/18/2021 11:24:15 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doe't know which bathroom to use. )
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To: yvette; carcraft; thecodont; Qiviut; Berlin_Freeper; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; lepton; jmacusa
Grrr.

I hate it when I am right.

After I posted, I thought I should actually watch the Arizona Senate hearing on July 15, 2021 with the CyberNinja Team. I hadn't seen it, only a summary, so I went and watched it at: 7/15/2021 Live Arizona AZ State Senate Hearing on the 2020 Election Audit in Maricopa County. (NOTE: This takes you right to the computer forensic analysis portion by Ben Cotton, and bypasses the chain of custody and material security of the non-computer things like ballot images.)

Since it is a rainy day and I am not going anywhere, this seemed like a good time to do this. I wanted to hear it from the horse's mouth, and it is disgusting to hear, from an IT perspective. From the video:

And so on. I think you get the idea.

Good computer security means changing the vendor supplied password out of the box. The vendor probably set up the other admin accounts as well at the same time, and those should have been changed.

Furthermore, each account should be limited only to the functions to be performed by that user and no more.

Lastly, nobody should be using the Admin Accounts. If there are 150 county employed people, every damn one of them should have had an account with their own expected permission sets and their own passwords. For auditing purposes, if nothing else.

This is horrible, Horrible, HORRIBLE Information Technology practice as done by Maricopa County. In my area of expertise, if something went wrong and in the investigation it was discovered I had set up the systems as they did in Maricopa County, it would be a fireable offense. And nobody would defend me, even people who might be my allies. Because they couldn't.

Then there is the issue of the security of items passed with a chain of custody.

The CyberNinjas (who have even been decried and ridiculed by some on this very forum) took several steps to acquire items from the county and do their analysis, not to mention those decrying their analysis as a fraud while embracing the two politically allied "independent" investigations contracted by Maricopa County hacks that did NONE of these things:

I found this fascinating, because the exercreble Secretary of State Katie Hobbs has said they would not use this equipment turned over to CyberNinjas because they could not verify that it had not been tampered with. Ben Cotton made the incisive observation that they had been handed over to his team by Maricopa County without taking forensic hardware write block images themselves.

It was also worth noting that Maricopa County said they had their own separate teams of investigators who said they found no issues at all, and Ben Cotton observed that if they had allowed these "independent" teams access and they did not make Hardware Write Block copies with an MD-5 hash...how was she going to approve those devices for use after they did their analysis?

Furthermore, Ben Cotton asked why they did not see or note any of these irregularities in their "independent" analyses that they said they executed?

And one more thing-there are certain analyses they cannot perform because they do not have the hardware dongles require for another layer of security. Maricopa County says the vendor Dominion has the passwords to burn those harware dongles and will not release those passwords.

Things that make you go "Hmmm."

Maricopa County officials are lying, evil scum.

105 posted on 07/18/2021 12:28:41 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: Jvette

Yes. It is a fault that law abiding people (as Conservatives generally are, it is almost always a core value in any Conservative you speak to) are often taken in because we adhere to the rule of law, and our enemies don’t.

And Trump is 100% correct. If we don’t fix this, we are finished.


106 posted on 07/18/2021 12:31:00 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: rlmorel

Well, if you can’t consider Maricopa County’s election invalid on the basis of fraud, it’s possible you could do so on the basis of sheer sloppiness.

Why bother to learn hacking techniques when you have Maricopa County officials to make things easy for you?


107 posted on 07/18/2021 12:35:58 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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To: rlmorel

Maricopa County officials are lying, evil scum.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

YES, they are!!

We only gave ‘adequate’ or ‘inadequate’ audit opinions .... inadequate was generally a function of internal control issues although if you had enough policy problems, that could do it, too.

This password issue alone would have been an “inadequate” opinion on steroids and people would have been fired ... probably immediately after the exit interview and before the formal conference!


108 posted on 07/18/2021 12:48:58 PM PDT by Qiviut (Faith is the antidote to fear. Mindset: be a victor, not a victim.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Heh, the last line of your post did indeed make me guffaw aloud!

Ain’t that the truth...


109 posted on 07/18/2021 1:11:59 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: Qiviut
It makes me angry. But...it does illustrate the corruption of Leftism in a way that I strongly feel conservatism is not affected-I wrote this yesterday about the US Military and what is going on there, and it applies: My whole life, I have seen our military forces as a bulwark against those corrosive and destructive ideas and notions that we see bubbling and rising, unrestrained, to the top.

Our military forces have, for the large part, served as a home base for some of the principles our country was founded on.
  • Honor.

  • Respect.

  • Courage.

  • Patriotism.

  • God.


Leftists have none of those things, at least none that spring from a purer well.
  • They have have Honor between Thieves.

  • They may have Respect for those who have immediate power over them.

  • They may have Courage when found in a large group of their own kind.

  • They may have Patriotism but it is a twisted version that is actually hate of country, not an embrace of those things that our Founders knew were revolutionary in the history of Man and were good for everyone, everywhere on this planet.

  • They may have God in the form of Marxism, Alinskyism, Gaia (Earth worship) or even the likes of some dictator or politician.

But those things are stunted, malformed versions of those ideals we find dear, and as such, like any facsimile (never mind an evil one) are inherently weaker.

They may win in the short term, but I believe in the long term, those values, if inculcated, will win out.

As it is with this. In Maricopa County with not only the Election Board and the entire Democrat Party (including their RINO allies) it is clear there is no honor, respect, courage, patriotism, or God. They would all sell their souls for some slice of power.

110 posted on 07/18/2021 4:21:59 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

https://mobile.twitter.com/aliswenson?lang=en


111 posted on 07/18/2021 7:39:54 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: carcraft

Thank you for that info. I usually don’t give the AP and the NYT the click, but I had to in this case.


112 posted on 07/18/2021 7:42:12 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: lepton; carcraft
You are correct. I had to go back and look, and yes...

From the article:
"...Rod Thomson, a public relations consultant working for Cyber Ninjas, said Maricopa County refused to answer questions posed by the audit team in private, forcing Logan to ask for explanations in public.

“Mr. Logan never said this was fraud or criminal, he merely stated the facts as they were provided to him and did not have an explanation,” Thomson said. “None of this would be necessary if the county would simply communicate with the audit team when there are questions..."

Well, that seems to be the case when you watch the video. So CyberNinjas asked them for an explanation and Maricopa County Election Board told them to go pound sand.

Not surprising, I guess, given how their ineptitude, ignorance and possible criminality is being exposed, and I blame myself for not having a better handle on the context of the issue, if what AP says is true.

I have tended to discount the input of people or entities that have lied non-stop to my face. If AP is like a stopped clock that is right twice a day, I can live with that.

113 posted on 07/18/2021 8:11:33 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: Qiviut

So, as I recall, the sampling was not a statistical sampling, but an arbitrary one, with nothing to stop the folks directing what box to choose from knowing and choosing what they wanted to look at.

Further, how many ballots do you need to check, even if it were random, in order to notice a 0.5% discrepancy in an irregular data set and for it to be statistically significant to 3SDs?


114 posted on 07/18/2021 8:46:48 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

AD on TV wonders if the lie detecter is telling the truth.


115 posted on 07/19/2021 4:18:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rlmorel
..I feel this way, that my brain has to discard something ...

As an example, when a bushy haired young whippersnapper wants to suggest his allure to the opposite sex to this bald oldtimer, I merely reply, "You only have so many male hormones. If you want to use them to grow hair, then go right ahead."

The quizzical look that flashes across their face is priceless.

116 posted on 07/19/2021 4:28:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Hahahahah...that’s great!

I can visualize that look...:)


117 posted on 07/19/2021 4:29:51 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: lepton

The so-called “audits” done by these battleground states & touted by Illegitimate Joe during his angry speech, where he was trying to defend his legitimacy, were worthless. When you count ballots & do not make the distinction between fraudulent ballots vs legal, legitimate ballots, you get the same fraudulent results.

The corrupt election officials know this & were just throwing breadcrumbs to the media & “we the people”. The media of course ran with it, trying to prop up Illegitimate Joe; however, some of “we the people” aren’t buying it & are willing to fight for the truth. The Left are bucking like steers & fighting tooth & nail to keep the truth from being known, but there are some terrific folks driving the “Nov. 3 Movement” and they will not be denied.

Steve Bannon on his War Room show (videos on Rumble & also podcasts) is covering this subject in detail - many of the ‘insiders’ working on the FULL FORENSIC audits are interviewed on his show - fascinating stuff, if you care to follow it closely.


118 posted on 07/19/2021 5:55:27 AM PDT by Qiviut (Faith is the antidote to fear. Mindset: be a victor, not a victim.)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

“It’s debunked because it’s debunked.” - Leslie Stahl interviewing President Trump....................


119 posted on 07/19/2021 5:59:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Great comments on this thread. I was going to point out that nobody expects the truth from AP, but there are better comments here.


120 posted on 07/19/2021 6:10:15 AM PDT by NetAddicted ( Just looking)
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