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“We may never have revolted against Britain if some of the founders had not understood that slavery empowered them to do so; nor if they had not believed that independence was required in order to ensure that slavery would continue. It is not incidental that 10 of this nation’s first 12 presidents were enslavers, and some might argue that this nation was founded not as a democracy but as a slavocracy.”


All of the colonies were slave permitting colonies? This is the CRT that is going to be taught in our schools.

1 posted on 07/05/2021 6:22:46 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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The nation you despise is the nation that spent its treasure and spilled its blood to make you free.


29 posted on 07/05/2021 7:01:33 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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https://www.history.com/news/slavery-new-england-rhode-island


33 posted on 07/05/2021 7:04:32 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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Hi.

What is a, “Touré?”

Thanks.

5.56mm


34 posted on 07/05/2021 7:04:54 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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How DARE you skip over those 620,000+ who gave their lives. Go back to your ignorant hole.


35 posted on 07/05/2021 7:06:19 AM PDT by NeverTyranny
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might better the day the Emancipation Proclamation was signed, is he wasn't a RACIST that is...
37 posted on 07/05/2021 7:08:59 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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Later


38 posted on 07/05/2021 7:11:54 AM PDT by deweyfrank (Nobody's Perfect )
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Fellow Citizens, I am not wanting in respect for the fathers of this republic. The signers of the Declaration of Independence were brave men. They were great men too great enough to give fame to a great age. It does not often happen to a nation to raise, at one time, such a number of truly great men. The point from which I am compelled to view them is not, certainly, the most favorable; and yet I cannot contemplate their great deeds with less than admiration. They were statesmen, patriots and heroes, and for the good they did, and the principles they contended for, I will unite with you to honor their memory.

They loved their country better than their own private interests; and, though this is not the highest form of human excellence, all will concede that it is a rare virtue, and that when it is exhibited, it ought to command respect. He who will, intelligently, lay down his life for his country, is a man whom it is not in human nature to despise. Your fathers staked their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor, on the cause of their country. In their admiration of liberty, they lost sight of all other interests. They were peace men; but they preferred revolution to peaceful submission to bondage. They were quiet men; but they did not shrink from agitating against oppression. They showed forbearance; but that they knew its limits. They believed in order; but not in the order of tyranny. With them, nothing
was “settled”; that was not right. With them, justice, liberty and humanity were “final”; not slavery and oppression. You may well cherish the memory of such men. They were great in their day and generation. Their solid manhood stands out the more as we contrast it with these degenerate times.

How circumspect, exact and proportionate were all their movements! How unlike the politicians of an hour! Their statesmanship looked beyond the passing moment, and stretched away in strength into the distant future. They seized upon eternal principles, and set a glorious example in their defense. Mark them!
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A portion that this author conveniently left out of Fredrick Douglass’ 1852 speech, “What to the slave is the Fourth of July”. Douglass often was requested to speak on particular topics to abolitionist, church and women’s groups. For this one, he was to speak on what the 4th of July meant to slaves. Douglass, unlike his mentor William Lloyd Garrison, was a staunch supporter of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Unlike Garrison, who wanted the country to restart back to the Declaration, Douglass supported the Constitution and felt that it should remain and be extended to include blacks. Remember, the Dred Scot decision had not happened yet and there was much discussion of whether the Constitution was meant to apply to blacks.

Douglass is probably the most influential black man in American history. Meeting with Lincoln, he is probably the reason that eventually the black troops were commissioned during the Civil War. These soldiers were roughly 200,000 in number and contributed greatly to the success of the Union. However, Douglass is often overshadowed by other important black Americans like Dubois or King, most likely because of his ardent support for America.


39 posted on 07/05/2021 7:14:40 AM PDT by GeorgianaCavendish (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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The author is suffering from Touré Syndrome, the inability to control the posting of hate-filled nonsense.


41 posted on 07/05/2021 7:17:41 AM PDT by PTBAA
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Africanization is a plague on America


42 posted on 07/05/2021 7:21:20 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Like BLM, Joe Biden is a Domestic Enemy )
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All the concessions are never enough. Giving them juneteenff did not quiet them down. It made them want more, hate the country more.

There will be another “crisis” before long. It will paralyze the country. Its purpose will be to condition the folks for reparations.


43 posted on 07/05/2021 7:22:05 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The government under democrats is a criminal enterprise.)
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The day Lincoln freed the Confederacy’s/Democrats’ slaves.


51 posted on 07/05/2021 8:08:25 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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Slavery is occurring right now in China and Mooslim countries, but crickets.


52 posted on 07/05/2021 8:09:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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"All of the colonies were slave permitting colonies?"

Many of the colonies passed abolitionist laws prior to Independence and the King vetoed those laws.

So while the answer to your question is ultimately "yes", that answer rests on a very large technicality. It was forced on us against our will.

53 posted on 07/05/2021 8:16:53 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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And if there were such a word as “slaveocracy”, that would mean a nation run by slaves, not by slave owners. Self-important idiot.


54 posted on 07/05/2021 8:20:52 AM PDT by jagusafr ( )
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All of the colonies were slave permitting colonies?


I’m not aware of any colony that specifically outlawed slavery. There were slaves in northern states, but large-scale slavery made little economic sense in the North. Even in the South, the trend was for slavery ending. It was only the invention of the cotton gin that made large-scale plantation slavery economically viable again.

And then there’s the inconvenient fact that in 1785 the Continental Congress outlawed slavery in the Northwest Territory, likely one of the first places on earth where slavery was specifically outlawed.

And Toué, just remember, those slaves didn’t free themselves all those black fists raised in the air notwithstanding.


55 posted on 07/05/2021 8:21:04 AM PDT by hanamizu
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The only Independence Day that I celebrate is the 4th of July.

Anyone who finds that offensive can suck a big one. IDGAF.

57 posted on 07/05/2021 9:37:46 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Evidence of Touré Syndrome.


58 posted on 07/05/2021 9:59:50 AM PDT by DPMD
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The irony is that Toure and all of his like minded friends complaining about their “oppression” is that they are all spoiled brats.


59 posted on 07/05/2021 10:03:17 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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It appears that the writer of this screed has conveniently ignored the fact the first slave-owner in America was a black man!
62 posted on 07/05/2021 11:08:27 AM PDT by FrodoBaggins
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How many countries in all of human history have suffered from an obesity epidemic?

Just saying...

64 posted on 07/05/2021 11:50:46 AM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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