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Biden says teachers deserve 'a raise, not just praise'
ABC News / Disney ^ | July 2, 2021 | By COLLIN BINKLEY, AP Education Writer

Posted on 07/03/2021 4:54:42 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They deserve a “raise” alright. Especially the communist CRT progressives pushing drag queens.

HOW HIGH IS S GALLOWS??


21 posted on 07/03/2021 5:44:31 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach John Roberts, Coney-Barrett, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch. TRAITORS)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Corrupt Joe has been in power 50 years. All the problems teachers have can be laid at his feet.


22 posted on 07/03/2021 5:50:22 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There’s a difference between teachers and educators.


23 posted on 07/03/2021 6:07:04 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distribBluted right.)
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To: Josa; Aevery_Freeman
I agree. Most teachers I know went to college and either started off looking for an easy major -- or they at first tried a real major and gave up on it and wound up in education as an easy way to complete the degree.


I've often thought that if we get rid of the unions and allow administrators to give pay like teachers deserve, we might have more true math and science nerds (like retired programmer Aevery) going into teaching as a starting career and doing it well. But that won't happen as long as we collectively have to pay for the dumb teachers to pretend to educate our kids.


As a programmer myself, let me explain liberal arts classes for the lay person. Math and science courses are meant to teach you the skills you need -- while liberal arts courses are meant to teach you that you need liberal arts courses.

24 posted on 07/03/2021 6:18:30 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: LIConFem

I disagree.

It is time to defund the public schools. Give the money back to the taxpayers so they can determine how best to teach their children.

It is time to close all the buildings. Sell them to corporate institutions who will compete for that new-found source of money that parents will now have.

It is time to fire all the staff. Let them learn how capitalism works so they can become really wealthy, too.

Gone are the days when everybody should be able to read, ‘rite, do ‘rithmetic. People need to learn how to become a contributing member of society.

THAT is what is missing from current, public education.


25 posted on 07/03/2021 6:23:43 AM PDT by beancounter13 (A Republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: PghBaldy

ANY legit company that builds a serious ONLINE teaching business will replace the teachers-—and lower property taxes nationwide.

COVID proved that the teachers have become bloated & self-important-—BUT REPLACEABLE by an ONLINE system.

A truly quick/intelligent student could learn faster at their own pace & learn more.

Right now-—no student is learning anything faster than the slowest /most disruptive student in the class.

As a person who has already paid out 86 YEARS worth of property taxes & has watched those tax dollars get thoroughly wasted, I would be glad to provide the kids the laptops & internet connections.

Drop the class rooms-—the ‘teachers-—the MASSIVE fleet of buses-—the whole darn mess.


26 posted on 07/03/2021 7:07:34 AM PDT by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: ridesthemiles

I would bet that Elon Musk would give SKYLINK to online schools at a very reasonable rate.


27 posted on 07/03/2021 7:10:25 AM PDT by ridesthemiles ( )
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Mo money…keep those teachers unions and the nea in the rat tent…teachers don’t want to work anymore anyway…stay at home and draw big checks…


28 posted on 07/03/2021 7:25:29 AM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: PTBAA
Actually, if raises were based on performance (student outcomes), they deserve a sizable pay cut.

I use to have this belief as well. But have two family members in public education. The problem is the system that rewards failure and actually discourages success and achievement.

More specifically, how to you hold accountable an 11 or 12 grade teacher for the performance of his/her student when they have been given a group of students reading at 6th grade level due to the students total lack of interest, poor discipline, disinterested parents and the institutions pervasive social promotion policies?

The system of public education is rotten to the core. Ripe for financial abuse, patronage, and political manipulation. The delivered product, educated children ready for productive lives, is of little interest to the system.

I don’t have a simple solution. System needs to be burned to the ground and returned exclusively to local control.

29 posted on 07/03/2021 8:00:58 AM PDT by sjmjax
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To: Robert DeLong

There are some good teachers out there but they are a rarity, especially in D areas.


30 posted on 07/03/2021 8:11:38 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

eliminate all unions for government employees ... solves many problems ...


31 posted on 07/03/2021 8:19:21 AM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink kills ...)
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To: proud American in Canada

parents who have spent the last year homeschooling their children have gained an accurate understanding of just what their children are being taught...
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I look at my life experience. I am now 57 years old. In grade K-6 I lived in the south side of Chicago. Neighborhood was deteriorating year by year being taken over by gangs and such. I attended a strict Lutheran private school and got a real education. We were paddled on the ass (girls too) when we mis-behaved. Whites, blacks, Hispanics - we all got along pretty well. Oh yeah, we also attended church together. In 1977, my parents decided to move to western suburbs and get us kids away from the growing threat of violence in Chicago.
Starting in 7th grade, I attended a public school for the first time in the safety of suburbia. What an eye opening experience. Most of the teachers (mostly women) could not control the students. There was chaos in some of the classrooms. Some of the teachers wound up crying from the students non-stop mis-behaving. The trash students knew exactly which class rooms they could “get rowdy” in. A couple of the teachers (older men) did not put up with the bullshit and their classes were disciplined, just like my old Chicago Lutheran school. I saw this same pattern repeat in the remaining 8-12 years in public schooling.
Long story made short. No disciple. Weak teachers. No consequences for bad behavior. No flunking grades. Good schools exist in bad neighborhoods. Shitty schools exist in “good” neighborhoods. I think 98% of the public school teachers today are democrat women. They are in my neighborhood destroying the current generation of children. I don’t have the answers but I KNOW it is NOT “free” public education.


32 posted on 07/03/2021 8:21:15 AM PDT by mund1011
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
our local teachers make at least $100,000 a yr, I mean for 185 days of "work"....

and these people get a tax credit for all the "supplies" they buy...

33 posted on 07/03/2021 8:22:37 AM PDT by cherry
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To: bgill

True, but we need to fire them all, so we can hire the good ones back without belonging to a Union.


34 posted on 07/03/2021 8:23:47 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We need teachers of BASICS - Reading, writing and arithmetic. Most of today’s government teachers are propagandists.

American education is now a joke. The teachers themselves haven’t mastered the basics so how can they teach them?

American high school graduates from government schools are a disgrace because of social promotion grade-to-grade, without their mastering the basics.

Many “graduates” cannot read their own diplomas.


35 posted on 07/03/2021 8:26:35 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If your child has grown up to be an Marxist America hating loser, thank a teacher


36 posted on 07/03/2021 8:30:47 AM PDT by willk
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To: ClearCase_guy

You can put 10% of the lot into a group being worth a tinkers damn. The rest are arrogant, lazy leftist who loath kids and despise parental participation. They don’t want the parents to find out what they are doing to their kids.

GenX is going to be the last generation that actually learned anything in the public education system of America.

If we survive as a free country this time periods history will damn the media and public school teachers for the misery they caused upon this country,


37 posted on 07/03/2021 8:32:51 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: sarge83

The only way to improve schools is get rid of tenure...My wife was a first grade teacher...and she saw it first hand.....they also need some kind of test....to see if they can control a class room and actual teach...

There is a difference in school systems some are great and big cities are terrible....


38 posted on 07/03/2021 8:50:04 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

WOW. It is so hard to stay home all day. Heck. The teachers didn’t even have to stay home. They could have been on a beach front resort with internet. How many paychecks did teachers miss?

We’re all in this together, right?


39 posted on 07/03/2021 9:37:38 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: mund1011

I think your answer is in the fact that you all attended church together.

BTW, I am from Chicago and lived on the South Side for a while (95th and Commercial).

It sounds like you experienced a substitute teacher every day! Chaos on the menu; out of control kids. When the teacher calls in sick, don’t call a sub, call the parents and tell them to bring their children home. It’s a lost day.


40 posted on 07/04/2021 4:59:46 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Fear is a reaction; courage is a decision. Winston Churchill )
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