Thousands Flood ATF With Comments Over Rule Change That Could Land Millions of Americans in Legal Trouble

townhall.com ^ | 6/17/2021 | Matt Vespa

[rktman]

Stephen Gutowski of The Reload has been covering the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives’ attempt to ban pistol braces. There’s no wiggle room. No grandfather clause. They’re trying to make them illegal, thus turning millions of Americans into felons for exercising their constitutional right to own firearms. Some 10-40 million Americans have firearms with these stabilizing pistol braces. It’s a backdoor ban. Biden doesn’t have the legislative majorities to pass what he wants to pass, so his people are looking at the existing regulations, tweaking them, and they found a big one here. This new ATF regulation is potentially the largest gun registration and confiscation scheme in American history.

[Who is John Galt?]

AR15 pistols are still stupid for demonstrable reasons, especially in rifle calibers.

Oh, you mean like .300 AAC Blackout (shooting subsonics with a suppressor ;^)?

Opinions are like ***holes - everyone’s got one... People are free to disagree and have their own opinions.

Obviously.

(And FWIW, I've owned four AR pistols in different calibers, and no longer own any of them... ;^)

[larrytown]

300 Blackout w/ suppressor in typical pistol config is just a suppressed SBR with a crappy stock (let’s not be coy, the ‘pistol braces’ are basically rule-benders). For most, these are a semi-auto SMG. It’s sad that people want to die on that hill, defending ‘pistol braces’, when they need to be working on removing suppressors from the Title II list.

I’ll be the last person to judge anyone for wanting to have whatever shooting toys they want. Even stupid ones can be fun, but they’re still stupid.

[Manly Warrior]

Actually, “occasional and incidental use” applies under the current rule. Just as a rifle or shotgun can be used with one or two hands and not on the shoulder, still is a rifle/shotgun. Using a handgun that has the ability to be supported with one or both hands and or the shoulder or chest or bicep etc des not make it a SBR. By definition an SBR is a “rifle or shotgun with a barrel length of less than 16 or 18 inches respectively”.

Adding a brace, even one with the ability to be supported by the body other than the hands, does not make an SBR.

[Osage Orange]

Guns aren't the problem.

Criminals are the problem.

[Who is John Galt?]

It’s sad that people want to die on that hill, defending ‘pistol braces’, when they need to be working on removing suppressors from the Title II list.

There are probably a hundred times more AR pistols in private hands than sound suppressors, but you say 'Screw the stupid AR pistols', because you don't own one, and think we should all be writing letters about suppressors instead. Oh, you betcha!

Tha sad part is, I meet gun owners with similar myopic attitudes all the time. "I don't own any 'Saturday night specials'/Uzis/bumpstocks/'assault weapons'/.50 BMG rifles/drum mags/short smoothbore 'firearms'/folding stocks/black rifles/'ghost guns'/AR pistols/'sniper rifles'/bayonet lugs/plastic guns/flash suppressors/AK47s/etc, so it's a waste of time for people to defend the right to own 'em." If there's anything 'stupid' around, it's the gun owners who have no problem with bureaucrats restricting our God-given and 2nd Amendment rights, because it doesn't affect them personally...

[Lurkinanloomin]

The sad part is, I meet gun owners with similar myopic attitudes all the time. “I don’t own any ‘Saturday night specials’/Uzis/bumpstocks/’assault weapons’/.50 BMG rifles/drum mags/short smoothbore ‘firearms’/folding stocks/black rifles/’ghost guns’/AR pistols/’sniper rifles’/bayonet lugs/plastic guns/flash suppressors/AK47s/etc, so it’s a waste of time for people to defend the right to own ‘em.” If there’s anything ‘stupid’ around, it’s the gun owners who have no problem with bureaucrats restricting our God-given and 2nd Amendment rights, because it doesn’t affect them personally...
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Amen

EVERY infringement leads to more infringement and ALL should be contested.
They want to disarm us by a thousand cuts.