Yeah, this is a hitpiece by The Usual Suspects - failed English majors trying to stir up Mitt.
Posted on 05/31/2021 7:32:46 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
A mass grave containing the remains of 215 Indigenous children has been discovered on the grounds of a former residential school in the interior of southern British Columbia.
The grim discovery at the former school near the town of Kamloops was announced late on Thursday by the Tk’emlups te Secwépemc people after the site was examined by a team using ground-penetrating radar.
“We had a knowing in our community that we were able to verify. To our knowledge, these missing children are undocumented deaths,” said Rosanne Casimir, chief of the Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc, in a statement.
Some of the remains belong to children as young as three years old, but the causes and timing of their deaths are not yet known. “At this time we have more questions than answers,” said Casimir.
The Kamloops Indian residential school was established in 1890 under the leadership of the Roman Catholic church, and closed in 1978.
SNIP
* This article was amended on 31 May 2021. An earlier version erroneously quoted the 2015 Truth and Reconciliation Commission as describing a “culture of genocide”, rather than “cultural genocide” targeting Canada’s Indigenous people.
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"Authorities in Canada uncovered the remains of 215 children, some as young as 3 years old, at the site of a former residential school for indigenous students"
Reurters Twitter: indigenous students
The Reuters twitter post has a hot link redirecting you to their news article.
This Guardian article (and others I have read) gives few facts and context. Are they trying to imply these children murdered? Did they all die at once or over a period of time? What was the cause of death? Was it the same for every child?
While it's tragic 215 children are said to have died little is provided as to who, what, when, how.
To me this is an example of journalists taking the side of activists without asking pertinent questions.
It reminds me of a story a few years back where and Irish Catholic school was said to have dump hundreds of babies down a well. (I hope someone remembers that story and can provide details.)
To me this is 'hit and run' activist journalism with a grain of truth but meant to sensationalize events that may or may not have a basis in fact but are designed to cause maximum damage without context.
That school was St Thomas Aquinas and it wasn't babies it was mostly 3rd & 4th graders. I escaped by pretending I was an altar boy.
I agree that the coverage is mostly sensational with little context. Of course, the implication is that they were the victims of colonialism and white supremacy.
“...colonialism and white supremacy...” Wait a minute now. We’re talking CanaDUH, NOT the United States of racis’ here.
Well, let's look at the records. Surely the Catholic church, fond of ripping these kids from their parents so as to "educate" them properly, would keep records of all these unfortunate accidents, right?
The church ought to be uncovering all this, right ?
The church stands for truth, respect for life, and transparency, right ?
Have a look yourself, and see what the church says about this: Top 20 Catholic Websites
Here's a summary of what they say about it: [ ]
We’re talking infant and child mortality before antibiotics and vaccinations. The place opened in 1890, although I think it may have been there before that and only got accepted into the new state system at that time.
I was two years old when I was one of the first civilians in my area to receive penicillin (for pneumonia) - in 1948. I’d be long dead otherwise. These children and the institution didn’t have that option.
The school was there 80 years. 215 students died. Do the math. That would be three students a year.
You should get your facts straight. The Catholic church has no such power to "rip kids from their parents" in Canada. And why would you imagine they did?
As is the case in the vast majority of cases of institutional overreach, the villain is the government. Canada's, in this case.
I think school was 1870-1970
Yeah, this is a hitpiece by The Usual Suspects - failed English majors trying to stir up Mitt.
In my grandfathers’ generation if you had a large family you almost expected to have a child or two die during childhood. My father’s generation (born during WW2) was the first one where you expected all of the children in a family to survive to adulthood. If thousands of kids went through that school before antibiotics and most (dare I say it) vaccinations, a few deaths per year wouldn’t be a surprise.
The implication is abuse and murder was common. The most likely scenario is natural causes for almost all of the kids. In the first half of the 20th century, it wasn’t uncommon for flu to kill several kids in a school. I can easily see a large enough school losing several dozen during the Spanish Flu. These aren’t exactly well funded missions with access to terrific doctors.
I see 1, you hate Catholics. 2, you believe the far-let narrative 'forces assimilation' is 'cultural genocide'.
Throughout history conquers have obliterated their enemies. That is, except for Christian Western nations. We offered to help them by assimilating them into our culture. We didn't kill them.
Canada, the US, and Australia (and others) have all be condemned for "cultural genocide" via "force assimilation". We weren't trying to hurt them. We were trying to help them by bringing them into the Western mainstream.
As for the Catholic church. It was the Catholic church that set up homes for unwed mothers, orphanages, hospitals, and insane asylums. It wasn't the government, Muslims, Jews, or society at large it was the Catholic church that took on that duty.
Have there been instances of abuse and cover-up by the church? Yes but it is not unique to the Catholic church. The Catholic church is just an easy target for media hype.
Google "rabbi child sexual abuse" and "Muslim child sexual abuse" and see what news articles comes up.
Read the following article slowly and carefully and see how it compares to abuse reported in the Catholic church.
"The church stands for truth, respect for life, and transparency, right?"
The school was there 80 years. 215 students died. Do the math. That would be three students a year.
There were around 500 children there. Looking at the death rates, during that time about 5% children age 5-15 died by natural causes. This actually agrees pretty well. As a matter of fact more children should die. The reason for the lack of bodies is probably because some died at home during vacations or were send there before they died.
Nobody was killed/starved to death/tortured!
These schools, like all boarding schoils were hit hard with things like Spanish Flu, polio, measles etc.
Another issue we are still seeing during forest fire evacuations is a form of Dysentry caused by dietary changes. Which leads to hospitalization dehydration and on and on.
Here: Chilocco Indian School was an agricultural school for Native Americans on reserved land in north-central Oklahoma from 1884 to 1980. It was approximately 20 miles north of Ponca City, Oklahoma and seven miles north of Newkirk, Oklahoma, near the Kansas border. The name "Chilocco" is apparently derived from a Muscogee word meaning "big deer" or horse.
My Aunt Vergie and Uncle Charles met at that school and eventually married.
My Uncle and Aunt ended up working at Chilocco...and both retired from there. They have both passed on...some years ago....
FWIW-
Trump’s fault?
Interesting! Thanks!
You are absolutely correct.
During the years cited, there were epidemics of diphtheria, measles, the 1918 pandemic, typhoid fever, whooping cough, and poliomyelitis.
Intelligent people will put this all in perspective.
Exactly.
My story is similar. In 1942, I had double pneumonia for the second time in a year.
Fortunately, we has an excellent family doctor, Dr. Francis Landall Tucker, who knew about sulfadiazine.
He (and God) cured me, and I became a healthy child.
My Mom told me that the Doc said, after treatment, if she survives this night, she will live.
My Mom and sisters gathered round my bedside, and repeatedly recited the Rosary, until the fever broke, and in the morning, I was well.
Here I am, 80 years later, hale and hearty.
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