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'Herd Immunity' Not Possible in U.S., Experts Say, But We May Not Need It
PJ Media ^ | 05/05/2021 | Rick Moran

Posted on 05/05/2021 8:19:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

It’s becoming increasingly clear as the pandemic continues to wind down that the goal of achieving “herd immunity” in the U.S. won’t be possible — at least, as it’s defined by public health officials. Too many of us decline to be vaccinated for the U.S. to meet the target goal of 70-90 percent of citizens who have either been vaccinated or contracted Covid-19.

Instead, we’ve got to accept the fact that the virus will become a “manageable threat” and continue to bedevil the world for years to come.

“The virus is unlikely to go away,” said Rustom Antia, an evolutionary biologist at Emory University in Atlanta. “But we want to do all we can to check that it’s likely to become a mild infection.”

Part of the problem is the coronavirus itself. The virus is mutating at an alarming rate. Some of the variants have been shown to be more infectious. Some are more virulent and cause more severe symptoms.

But so far, the vaccines that have been approved for use have demonstrated great effectiveness against all Covid variants. That’s the good news. The bad news is that some virologists believe that a variant is going to come along that is resistant to the current crop of vaccines. Then what?

For the moment, this scenario is unlikely. It’s probable that the vaccine will give at least some protection, which means fewer hospitalizations and deaths regardless of what variant is causing the infection.


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KEYWORDS: covid19; herdimmunity
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To: DugwayDuke; bagster

DugwayDeepStateTroll said: “Does that mean you will be taking the vaccine when they’re approved later this year?”

Not just no, but H3## no!!

These unproven, experimental and seemingly dangerous shots are NOT vaccines.

It is gene therapy that is playing a potentially dangerous trick, on a very large scale.

Now, you’ve outed yourself, yet again, of what your final goal, here, is. To push ALL to take these experimental jabs, once they’re ‘approved’.

Pharmeceuticals have been pulled for LESS adverse effects than these shots are having.

Which gov’t entity do you work for, dug?


81 posted on 05/06/2021 11:14:46 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Salamander

See 81


82 posted on 05/06/2021 11:15:04 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Jane Long

The upside to this is that no poor lab animals had to suffer through the experimental phase.

They’re using people, instead.


83 posted on 05/06/2021 11:19:28 AM PDT by Salamander (Salamander has barbaric tendencies.../Gundog)
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To: Salamander

PETA must’ve joined in on the pay outs 🧪💉 🐀

Actually, I think there were animal testings involved in SARS-1 vax trials.

IIRC, they all died.


84 posted on 05/06/2021 11:23:22 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Jane Long

Yes, they did.

All of them.

/yah, gonna go line up for *this* jab

o_O


85 posted on 05/06/2021 11:24:35 AM PDT by Salamander (Salamander has barbaric tendencies.../Gundog)
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To: Jane Long

Jane Long wrote: “Not just no, but H3## no!! These unproven, experimental and seemingly dangerous shots are NOT vaccines. It is gene therapy that is playing a potentially dangerous trick, on a very large scale.”

After that comment, you can no longer claim that you’re not an anti-vaxxer.


86 posted on 05/06/2021 11:55:30 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

DugwayDeepState said “After that comment, you can no longer claim that you’re not an anti-vaxxer.”

Wrong, again, TROLL.

I know that the TRUTH hurts your agenda.

After not answering my question......

Which gov’t entity do you work (and, push these shots) for??

You can NEVER repair your complete troll status, here.

Not only are you a troll, you’re a flat out liar.


87 posted on 05/06/2021 12:03:34 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Jane Long

If we are down to 25k cases a day or approx. 500 cases per state, that’s like 2 cases per county. I’m pretty sure we can leave he masks home.


88 posted on 05/06/2021 12:08:05 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: DugwayDuke; Jane Long; Salamander
After that comment, you can no longer claim that you’re not an anti-vaxxer.

So I guess the term 'anti-vaxxer' is enough to demonize good Americans who don't trust you and your derp state government, its fake corona 'plague' and their toxic fake 'vaccine'.

Right up there with 'flat earthers', 'conspiracy theorist', white supremacist, and 'right wing whacko'.

Here's the thing, government man. You people got to learn to deal with the actual issues rather than stick your enemies in the dismissed box with those hackneyed, worn out insults.

Trouble is, you have a hard time with the actual issues when the truth is staring you smack dab in the deep state eyeballs.

Hence, the bogus polemics.


89 posted on 05/06/2021 12:34:07 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: 1Old Pro

Yep. Pretty sure!


90 posted on 05/06/2021 12:59:14 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: bagster

It’s all they’ve got, from their old playbook and daily emails.


91 posted on 05/06/2021 1:00:06 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: bagster; Jane Long

Polarizing an issue is classic Alinsky.

Don’t take the bait.


92 posted on 05/06/2021 1:16:14 PM PDT by Salamander (Salamander has barbaric tendencies.../Gundog)
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To: Jane Long

Jane Long wrote: “Which gov’t entity do you work (and, push these shots) for??”

Which part of the Deep State is paying you to post misleading anti-vaxxer comments?


93 posted on 05/06/2021 1:30:05 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

i’m not an anti-vaxxer...

i’m a nonbeliever...


94 posted on 05/06/2021 1:33:49 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: DugwayDuke

I don’t post anti-vaxxer comments.

You keep avoiding the question DugDeepState.....which gov’t entity do you work for?

Simple answer will do.

No need to quote me, or anyone else, in your replies.


95 posted on 05/06/2021 1:34:51 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: heavy metal

Oh, no! According to the FRVPs (FR Vax Pushers), anyone who questions the safety (short and long term) or efficacy of these experimental shots, is an anti-vaxxer.....or, is it flat-earther....🤔


96 posted on 05/06/2021 1:36:33 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: DugwayDuke; Jane Long; 2aProtectsTheRest
Which part of the Deep State is paying you to post misleading anti-vaxxer comments?

Really, bruh?

Way to try to flip it.

A close study of the 'deep state' will show us that YOU are towing their line.

If you don't know that, you're lying. Or WAY stupider than you sound.

We are fighting the deep state corona op. You know, the one you're pushing.

Because we are REAL Americans.

#FightForTheRightsOfEveryMan


97 posted on 05/06/2021 1:48:23 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Jane Long

it’s not just about the vaccines...

all of these self proclaimed “medical professionals” posting on these threads refuse to address the opening of our border and distributing thousands of “disease carrying invaders” across our country during a “global pandemic” situation...


98 posted on 05/06/2021 1:54:46 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: heavy metal

Interesting.

Thanks for that heads up.

Even MORE telling, isn’t it??


99 posted on 05/06/2021 1:59:34 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: SeekAndFind

‘Part of the problem is the coronavirus itself. The virus is mutating at an alarming rate. Some of the variants have been shown to be more infectious. Some are more virulent and cause more severe symptoms.’

Fear-mongering, pure and simple. The higher the mutation rate, the faster the virus denatures itself into irrelevance.

“Some”is simply a weasel word, intended to confuse. The vast, vast majority of mutations are neutral or deleterious to the virus. The true problem with this virus has been, suspiciously(?), that it has a built-in mechanism to limit errors in replication.This is not normally found in other RNA viruses.

https://asm.org/Articles/2020/October/SARS-CoV-2-Sequencing-Data-The-Devil-Is-in-the-Gen


100 posted on 05/06/2021 2:21:47 PM PDT by Chaguito
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