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To: Eleutheria5

We’re heading into history :)

Ok, look here - the British were NOT racist to Indians in the Indian subcontinent until the late 1800s. Prior to the spreading of Darwinian ideas, there was a lot of admiration for Indian cultures, even while there was exploitation.

From the 1870s one does see the concept of racial superiority by the British in India.

But even among those, the opinions of Gen. Dwyer and Churchill were extreme. That’s what I meant when I said that Churchill was racist even by the standards of the day.

That doesn’t take away his actions and the praise he deserves for his actions in WWII. However he was flawed and not a good peacetime leader.


220 posted on 04/27/2021 12:18:06 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

“But even among those, the opinions of Gen. Dwyer and Churchill were extreme. That’s what I meant when I said that Churchill was racist even by the standards of the day.”

Must I do research? I hate research! Please post examples of both the standards of the day and how Churchill and Dwyer deviated from them. I can imagine he didn’t care for Gandhi and Nehru.

“That doesn’t take away his actions and the praise he deserves for his actions in WWII. However he was flawed and not a good peacetime leader.”

Generalities. Are we even really disagreeing? I enumerate his flaws in some detail. What did I miss? His blunders in the ‘45 election were pretty obvious.

But even so, he was on a partitioning kick both in and out of power. He partitioned the Mandate and created Transjordan. He partitioned Ireland and created Northern Ireland. I would suspect that the partitioning of India to create Pakistan would be his baby, likewise the partitioning of Germany into East and West, and letting the USSR keep Poland East of the Bug River, and east Finland. Under the circumstances, all he was able to save of the Balkans and Baltics from the Iron Curtain was Greece, which is why we were spared an East and West Bulgaria, East and West Czechoslovakia, East and West Romania, etc. Stalin grabbed the lot of them, save Greece, and there was bugger all Winnie could do about it, thanks to FDR and Truman’s naïve trusting natures. He had a good smile and a twinkle in his eyes, so of course he would keep his word and allow democratic elections in the countries his red army overtook./s He tried to warn the Americans, but they didn’t trust him. No smile. No twinkle in his eyes. Smoked big cigars that made their eyes water. Aha! Another flaw!


221 posted on 04/27/2021 4:00:12 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all the time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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