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Pfizer vaccine delivering 91 percent immunity for at least six months
https://news.yahoo.com ^ | April 2, 2021 | yahoo

Posted on 04/04/2021 1:12:17 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

Infectious disease specialist, Dr. Sandra Bliss Nelson, weighs in on finding that show the Pfizer vaccine is performing well;

MIKE SIMPSON: It's holding its effectiveness, basically 90-ish percent, 91%, six months later. So I guess there's two ways to look at it. First is, yeah, six months. That's great. But then another crowd maybe goes, oh, well, maybe it's only six months. Well, it doesn't drop off to 10% the Tuesday after the six-month clock rolls around, right? So it's going to be maybe a sliding scale. We just have to see how far it goes.

SANDRA BLISS NELSON: I think that there's a couple of points to this. I mean, the first is that there's really no opportunity to know more than about six months. We really have only had these vaccines in clinical trials for that duration of time, so it's not to say exactly as you pointed out, that there's going to be a cliff at the end of six months. It's really just that that's as far as we really know.

But we have begun to learn more about immunity after natural infection, and we believe that that immunity lasts at least six months, if not a little bit longer. And given that vaccination seems to produce more potent immunity than natural affection itself, there's really no reason to think that we're going to get more durability out of this vaccine than six months.

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KEYWORDS: ccp; chinavirusvaccine; immunity; info; pfizer; vacines
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Not necessarily true going into the future.


41 posted on 04/04/2021 1:58:45 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Kevmo
small pox - 3 years but the disease has been eradicated thanks to the vaccine so no need for boosters.

Rabies- more than 10 years. maybe.

Pertussis- 5-10 years. or less according to other sources.

I had to look all these up. There was conflicting data. I'm sure you can find sources that will say more or less.

42 posted on 04/04/2021 1:58:58 PM PDT by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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To: Cathi

They will also start vaccinating against influenza in both the early fall and a booster in late winter, to try to handle new strains that emerge. H1N1 likes to change.


43 posted on 04/04/2021 2:00:28 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: CapnJack

CanJack must be captain of the AMAVCDT (Anti-mask, Anti-Vaccine, Covid Denial Team).


44 posted on 04/04/2021 2:01:12 PM PDT by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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To: Right_in_Virginia; _Jim
yes it does. the mRNA when polyadenylated CHANGES the DNA.

why do ignore the Truth?

3,964 DEAD 162,610 Injuries:
European Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 “Vaccines”
A new study by researchers from Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research-Cambridge,
Wyss Institute for Biologically Inspired Engineering-Harvard University, Department of Biology-Massachusetts Institute of Technology
and the John A. Paulson School of Engineering and Applied Sciences-Harvard University
have alarmingly discovered that the SARS-CoV-2 RNA
is reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome.


45 posted on 04/04/2021 2:02:05 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Tuitio Fidei et Obsequium Pauperum)
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To: RC one

“So because you never had the flu, that means the flu doesn’t really kill thousands of people every year?”

Actually, the CDC guesses at the flu deaths every year. They do not use actual numbers. They jacked the numbers enough over the years to scare people into big pharama shots every year. I guess you were gullible enough to fall for it.

I never get the shot and have had the flu once in 25 years.

Why would anyone take a shot for such a low rick disease??

I would take the pneumonia shot which lasts for 10 years and protects against the #1 killer in flu and other disease conditions, but no one is pushing that dix.

There is no money in curing a disease, only treating it.


46 posted on 04/04/2021 2:02:21 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Diogenesis

👍🏻👍🏻


47 posted on 04/04/2021 2:04:45 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: CodeToad

The accuracy is sometimes low-like in 2017. In other years, it’s not too bad and there’s no doubt they save lives. You sound like some kind of ANTIFA guy crying about capitalism btw. I’m happy that the pharmaceutical industry is profitable. I wouldn’t want to live in a country where they didn’t have a profit motive.


48 posted on 04/04/2021 2:06:11 PM PDT by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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To: RC one; CapnJack
Try some science:


49 posted on 04/04/2021 2:06:27 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Tuitio Fidei et Obsequium Pauperum)
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To: CodeToad

50 posted on 04/04/2021 2:07:45 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Tuitio Fidei et Obsequium Pauperum)
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To: RC one
"CanJack must be captain of the AMAVCDT (Anti-mask, Anti-Vaccine, Covid Denial Team)."

Want more scientific data???:

Dr. Simone Gold - a vaccine is unnecessary given methods to prevent and cure.

Dr Lee Merritt - Army doctor, specialty bio-weapons.

Dr. Richard Fleming, MD, PhD, JD.

Dr. Merritt, more info.

Prof. Sucharit Bhakdi – reasons for reservations

51 posted on 04/04/2021 2:11:48 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Tuitio Fidei et Obsequium Pauperum)
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To: scrabblehack; Grampa Dave
Weren’t we getting 98% with nothing?

99% survival (case fatality curently 1%) is not the same as 99% immunity. My understanding of the 90% immunity is this: if a superspreader tries to infect people at some venue, the vaccine will stop 90% of those infections. If they all go back the next night and all behave the same, 90% of the infections that would result without vaccines would be stopped. Same the next night.

The problem with 90% is while that is nice and better than nothing, it is not nothing.

The other problem is that CFR of 1% doesn't consider undetected cases. So you have to use the IFR which is 2 to 5 times lower. So at least 99.5% survivability. But like I said, that's not the same as the infection probability. We actually don't know the infection probability for any particular situation.

52 posted on 04/04/2021 2:12:54 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: RC one

Whooping Cough was once considered eradicated as well. My family was living proof that it wasn’t.


53 posted on 04/04/2021 2:13:29 PM PDT by Kevmo (The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Cathi

Of course antibodies fall off. But the rest of the story is that it is driven into T memory cells which are not antibodies. This is where lasting immunity resides. And we know the vaccines produce robust T cell immunity.

People really don’t have a basic understanding of immunology but are happy to speak like experts in the field (not aimed at you just generally)


54 posted on 04/04/2021 2:13:43 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: scrabblehack

This entire FauciFraud is a giant (big) scam to transfer wealth to the deep state elite.

Nothing but a fraud.

Convince me that I am wrong.


55 posted on 04/04/2021 2:14:05 PM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: CodeToad

They estimate flu cases and deaths by surveying a large number of hospitals. Flu deaths in children are reportable however so we have exact numbers and 80% of pediatric flu deaths occur in unvaccinated children.


56 posted on 04/04/2021 2:15:06 PM PDT by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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To: Kevmo

mRNA is not gene therapy. Please exercise the basic research of understanding what and where genes are located and what mRNA is and does.


57 posted on 04/04/2021 2:15:46 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: immadashell; Grampa Dave
The U.S. population as of a few minutes ago was 331 million. 31.4 divided by 331 equals .095 or an implied herd immunity of 90.5%

You are comparing two completely different numbers. The infection reduction of 91% is any particular time that someone could get infected. About 9 times out of 10 the infection will be stopped by the vaccine. Whether that is good or bad is something I don't know. I would say better than nothing, and the complication risk from the vaccines is about 1000 times lower than the risk from the disease.

58 posted on 04/04/2021 2:15:59 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: gas_dr

I think you’re simply full of bowl sheet. Please remove your bullshiite before you engage on ANY subject here on FR. Thanks in advance.


59 posted on 04/04/2021 2:18:15 PM PDT by Kevmo (The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Kevmo
It's incidence has been greatly reduced along with many other childhood diseases thanks to vaccines. most kids that get it these days didn't get the vaccine or at least that's what I read here.
60 posted on 04/04/2021 2:19:08 PM PDT by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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