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FAA safety engineer goes public slamming its handling of Boeing 737 MAX
Seattle Times ^ | Mar 2021 | Dominic Gates

Posted on 03/10/2021 10:13:13 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

This year, fired up by a newly intense commitment to Christianity, regretful that he wasn’t more assertive internally before the second crash, and moved by the anger and frustration of the families of those who died, Jacobsen decided that wasn’t enough.

Ahead of his planned retirement from the FAA at the end of this month, he recounted his MAX experience in a Feb. 8 letter to the parents of Samya Rose Stumo, a 24-year-old American who died on Ethiopian Airlines flight ET302.

“I felt a strong conviction that I should help with healing the families of the 737 Max crashes,” he wrote.

Aside from officials defending the agency, Jacobsen is the first current FAA employee to speak out about what went wrong in the MAX’s certification. Now sharing his concerns with the press for the first time, he’s risking his post-FAA employment prospects.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: 737max; aerospace; aviation; boeing; boeing737max
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...fired up by a newly intense commitment to Christianity...


1 posted on 03/10/2021 10:13:13 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I just flew on a 737 Max. That engine cowling sure is huge!


2 posted on 03/10/2021 10:25:16 AM PST by willk (A bias news media is not a free press.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I tell my kids that if they listen to the Pointy-Headed libertarian types, and think business will do what’s best for safety, and government should stay out, they will be sadly disappointed.

But the people at the FAA (and this goes back to long before Trump) aren’t my kids, so they entrusted certification to people who could have higher priorities (i.e., stock price) and it finally came home to roost, once the management team was in place that put safety last.


3 posted on 03/10/2021 10:26:54 AM PST by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: BobL

There are libertarians and there are LIBERTARIANS.

Individual liberty is, to me, a goal enshrined in the constitution. But of course things like infrastructure and corporate safety need to be monitored to a reasonable degree. There is a happy medium and a need for judicious controls of certain aspects of life.

As Jefferson said “that government is best which governs least”. But there is still governance.


4 posted on 03/10/2021 10:38:48 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: BobL

as currently constructed, government would make planes green, not safe.


5 posted on 03/10/2021 10:39:29 AM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: Vaquero

people that drag thomas jefferson into an argument seldom seem to know much about him beyond the holy caricature (actually, the several holy caricatures) of him that people inevitably trot out at times like this.


6 posted on 03/10/2021 10:41:23 AM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: willk

“I just flew on a 737 Max. That engine cowling sure is huge!”

Hunka hunka engine in there.


7 posted on 03/10/2021 10:42:14 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
When he did get a look at the system, Jacobsen said he was “shocked to discover that the airplane was purposely designed and certified to use just one AOA (Angle of Attack) input for a flight critical function.”

I have no expertise in airplanes but to me that single Angle of Attack input leapt out at me.

To me it is like selling automobiles to the public with only rear wheel brakes. Do you need front wheel brakes also? No, but if you lose the rear wheel brakes because of a broken or leaking brake fluid line , you my very well crash the car. -Tom

8 posted on 03/10/2021 10:56:35 AM PST by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I said when this happened, that the only way this plane EVER got certified airworthy was one of the following in order of likelyhood:

BOEING LIED (by omission or actively) to the FAA (most likely)
The FAA was bribed to look the other way (Plausible much less likely)
OR the FAA was utterly incompetent at all levels (not likely)

I pointed that the simple fact that this system was operating with only input from a single sensor, and thus a single point of failure, would not pass the most basic oversight by the most JR person doing airworthiness certification.

Now it appears that I was right.. BOEING LIED BY OMISSION to get this aircraft certified. They as an organization are guilty of conspiracy, they are guilty of hundreds of counts of Murder in the Third Degree. Yet 2 years later not one individual is facing such charges... or been arrested.

Boeing as a company is negotiating with the Justice Department on its punishment for its actions.. but not one person is currently facing to my knowledge ANY JAIL TIME for this... and the Justice Department plans to keep it that way from all I can see.

DISGUSTING!! MURDER, FLAT OUT MURDER HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AND GET A FINE.... INSANITY

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/boeing-charged-737-max-fraud-conspiracy-and-agrees-pay-over-25-billion


9 posted on 03/10/2021 10:57:25 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Vaquero

Eh. The FR has a contingent that tries to depict all libertarians as pie-eyed anarchists.

This is funny coming from radical white supremacists who are trying to create a Theocracy.


10 posted on 03/10/2021 11:04:09 AM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL)
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To: BobL

“and think business will do what’s best for safety,”

Do you think government will do what is best for safety?

We are at the stage where you can only trust people on Free Republic.


11 posted on 03/10/2021 11:12:41 AM PST by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The Texas cold front just proved what “deregulation” does in an industry which the public is forced, by the nature of the industry, to rely on for our lives. By their nature politicians are accountable to the public. Companies are not.


12 posted on 03/10/2021 11:13:33 AM PST by nagant
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To: alternatives?

“Do you think government will do what is best for safety?

We are at the stage where you can only trust people on Free Republic.”

As far as government, it can, and it certainly has done what’s best for safety (and for that matter, keeping the environment clean), maybe not perfectly, but far better than industry will if unregulated. As to now, all bets are off.

True regarding FR, of course, but we don’t get to regulate airplane manufacturers.


13 posted on 03/10/2021 11:33:09 AM PST by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Thanks for straightening me out (s). I quote the man....not his whole existence


14 posted on 03/10/2021 11:54:42 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: JohnBrowdie

Heck, Texas did that with their electrical generation and grid, green vs. reliable. That turned out poorly.


15 posted on 03/10/2021 12:49:46 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Seruzawa
Eh. The FR has a contingent that tries to depict all libertarians as pie-eyed anarchists.

This is funny coming from radical white supremacists who are trying to create a Theocracy.

You complain about being mischaracterized, and then launch into your own mischaracterization of others?

My view of Libertarians is that they are naive and short sighted. They may not consciously support anarchy, but their ideas inevitably lead there.

When their ideas are put in place, they always seemed shocked in a "that wasn't supposed to happen" sort of way.

16 posted on 03/10/2021 4:31:40 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

How does it feel? Not so much fun when the insults come the other way is it?


17 posted on 03/10/2021 4:43:18 PM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Capt. Tom

Don’t know a lot about cars do you?

Front brakes are 80% of your braking power so yes, you definitely need them.

Better analogy would be the old single reservoir master cylinders so that if you get a leak, you have zero brakes. Since the 60s, they’ve been dual reservoir, one for front and one for back. That way you have something if one end or the other leaks. Preferably it would be a back leak because back brakes only are near useless, especially on a pickup truck with an empty bed.


18 posted on 03/10/2021 8:07:14 PM PST by Pollard (Bunch of curmudgeons)
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To: HamiltonJay

A retired 737 pilot explained it to me in one sentence.

“Score for the computer is two, score for pilots is zero.”


19 posted on 03/10/2021 9:42:01 PM PST by cpdiii (Texan Coonass Cane Cutter Deckhand Roughneck Geologist Pilot Phamacist. CONSTITUTION TO DIE FOR. )
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To: BobL

We can only trust people on Free Republic? Does that include the Fearpers who wanted the lockdown, who want the country to stay locked down to protect them?

Yeah. I don’t trust them either.


20 posted on 03/10/2021 9:51:24 PM PST by Twink
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