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The GOP’s Establishment Is More Populist Than Its Trumpists
Nymag.com ^ | 3/3/21 | Eric Levitz

Posted on 03/04/2021 3:05:18 AM PST by cotton1706

Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy — one of the few Republicans to vote for Trump’s conviction in the impeachment trial last month — articulated a stronger version of Thune’s position in an interview with CNN. “Over the last four years, [Republicans] lost the House of Representatives, the Senate and the presidency. That has not happened … since Herbert Hoover,” Cassidy observed. “If we plan to win in 2022 and 2024, we have to listen to the voters. Not just those who really like President Trump, but also those who perhaps are less sure.”

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I'm posting this "uh,oh, let's shore up the Establishment" story just to show people this Bill Cassidy quote.

“Over the last four years, [Republicans] lost the House of Representatives, the Senate and the presidency. That has not happened … since Herbert Hoover,”

(I wonder what the ellipse cuts out but nevetheless) I wonder where Bill Cassidy was in 2009 when the Republicans "over the last four years lost the House of Representatives, the Senate and the presidency."

And furthermore, as a result, did ANY Establishment type say "No more Bushes! They've decimated the party. They should be ostracized and condemned for all time. As well as anybody like them!"?

Nope! Why just six years later the entire cabal of Cassidy types got behind another Bush.

Either somebody whispered this talking point into Cassidy's ear or he's a total fool (likely both!)

But a wolf in the fold has just been safely reelected so that's all that matters to them.

1 posted on 03/04/2021 3:05:18 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

:Voter Fraud”


2 posted on 03/04/2021 3:10:12 AM PST by stockpirate (Where Justice Ends Tyranny Begins...Repression Breeds Violence)
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To: cotton1706

The Uniparty (R), due to its rabid anti MAGA agenda, GAVE the presidency and both houses away. There’s no point recounting the fraud the Uniparty (R) was complicit in and their deafening silence when then post Election Day coup occurred. We are all well aware of their treasonous actions. The Uniparty (R) is neither populist or Trumpian. The Uniparty (R) is only about DC graft and they can generate the same amount whether they are “in power” selling out conservatism or in their “Washington Generals” role of disloyal “opposition” to the Uniparty (D) agenda. Vote Uniparty (R), they at least promise to tap the brakes every now and then on the Uniparty road to total ruin.


3 posted on 03/04/2021 3:33:35 AM PST by hardspunned (Former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: cotton1706

This is DEFINITELY orchestrated and fake, of course. The only question is why, and why now?

First, let’s dispel the claim that the GOP (as a whole) has ANY CLUE as to what its base (i.e., populists) thinks.

EXAMPLE 1
When Trump came down the escalator and pointed out why illegal immigration had to stop (note that this is the top issue for the base), the GOP could have said something like: “While Trump may be a bit ‘colorful’ and he did point out a huge problem in the country, he could have been a little more ‘discrete” in his choice of words.” But they did not, instead they simply called Trump a Racist, and that the party has nothing to do with him or his concerns. All of them joined that chorus.

EXAMPLE 2 (nearly 6 years later)
When election laws, and the Constitution, were violated wholesale and clear evidence of fraud emerged, the GOP COULD have said something like: “While President Trump may not have gotten enough votes to win, we cannot know that for sure without a thorough investigation, and therefore we support a (real) investigation before certifying this election.” Instead they essentially said: “The election is over, there was no cheating, and Trump lost. He needs to get over it.” Note that I didn’t say they had to parrot Trump’s claim of winning...just investigating would have been enough for much of his base.

They think we’re going to forget, they have NO CLUE how far our anger dates back, for me 32 years, to when Bush Sr. talked about “...a kinder, gentler, America” (1988) and proceeded to establish the uniparty for the next 28 years. “Kinder and gentler” THAN WHAT? Reagan’s America?

The Republican Party is HOPELESS and I don’t care what path Trump takes, but he better fix it and fast.


4 posted on 03/04/2021 3:34:19 AM PST by BobL
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5 posted on 03/04/2021 3:37:01 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: stockpirate

“If we plan to win in 2022 and 2024, we have to listen to the voters. Not just those who really like President Trump, but also those who perhaps are less sure.”

crock of sh##, feed us some more crap!


6 posted on 03/04/2021 3:58:07 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: cotton1706

The writer of this pablum-puke knows nothing at all. And as long as “they” don’t get it, the better our chances. This is flaming gaslight propaganda, simple as that.

Consider:

“Once in office, however, Trump governed as a hard-right Republican.”

That is true only in the eyes of a hardcore leftist who despises the Constitution and our heritage — ideas and icons that have stood and served us well for two centuries plus.

No, Trump governed as a man who did his dead-level damndest to pull America back to the Constitution, our blessed heritage and the Bible itself. He went a long way toward it, despite trying to swim up Niagara Falls’ worth of relentless, ruthless, remorseless, spiteful, hate-strewn opposition. Hats off to the man. And a herd of skunks in the general direction of the writer and those who are stupid enough to share his gross misperception of reality.


7 posted on 03/04/2021 4:03:02 AM PST by Migraine ( Liberalism is great (until it happens to YOU).)
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To: cotton1706

IF the GOP wants to survive,
and it does not given this post:

the antiTrump Republicans must leave,
hopefully through ritual suicide, followed
by decimation of 30% of the rest.


8 posted on 03/04/2021 4:05:28 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: cotton1706
Let's see, in order to win elections Republicans should abandon the man who gained more votes as president for reelection than anyone in favor of those who voted against him in two phony impeachments because they want to increase the minimum wage and pay child benefits?

Evidently, the future of the party lies in pursuit of "populism" which by the illustrations used in this article seems to mean redistribution of wealth. The Mitt Romney's of this party will garner more votes on the national level because they advocate giving other people's money away but presumably giving less than Democrats.

This is more than Bill Buckley's image of conservatism standing athwart history shouting "stop," this is a view of successful election politics that says it is a winning strategy to stand in front of a horde of wealth dstributionists and their eager recipients shouting, "me less."

If Donald Trump had one principal failing in his administration it was overspending but to his credit he at least argued that fiscal stimulus would not ultimately sink the nation deeper in debt because cutting regulations and taxes the economy would grow faster than the debt.

An accommodating fed printed money fast enough to keep the economy going and growing but not to the extent that the debt was eclipsed although a kind of "populist" prosperity was generated in an era of funny money and low interest rates. The conditions which suspended reality, that kept the dollar the reserve currency of the world were in suspended animation but we all know that that which cannot go on, will not go on.

History tells us that if a crisis comes,if a black Swan lands, the people in their agony will not be looking for the likes of milquetoast Mitt Romney but for the man on horseback, a real "populist" (read neocommunist) who will eclipse Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson by the scope of their spending and their accumulation of power.

If that crunch time comes, conservatives in contrast will need a leader who can capture the trust of the nation with a positive vision that is greater than beggar thy neighbor. Donald Trump at least inspired the nation to a vision of greatness that rendered wealth distribution politics secondary and somewhat irrelevant to a higher concept of national restoration.

The Mitt Romney rinos of the world are incapable of such a feat, one word describes what is necessary: charisma.

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9 posted on 03/04/2021 4:07:39 AM PST by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Go back to import tariffs.


10 posted on 03/04/2021 4:12:22 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: cotton1706

Cassydy thinks he is hearing a drum beat of voters but is a fool fooled by fraudulent votes that stole the last election.


11 posted on 03/04/2021 4:13:03 AM PST by Recompennation
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To: cotton1706

China Mitch pushed this backbencher out in front of cameras because he was just reelected for six years. He’s speaking for the entire GOP Senate. Not a one will attack him for this nonsense. Not Cruz. Not Rand. Not nobody.


12 posted on 03/04/2021 4:17:44 AM PST by lodi90
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To: cotton1706
"Over the last four years, [Republicans] lost the House of Representatives, the Senate and the presidency. That has not happened … since Herbert Hoover," Cassidy observed. "If we plan to win in 2022 and 2024, we have to listen to the voters. Not just those who really like President Trump, but also those who perhaps are less sure."

From 2010 onward the Republican Party spent years building their campaigns and fundraising efforts on one key promise:

We will repeal ObamaCare.

After the 2016 elections the GOP had all the power they needed to get it done. THEY FAILED.

They lost the House and Senate in 2018-2020 for the same reason Donald Trump won in 2016: Tens of millions of American voters have had enough of a political party filled with feckless @ssholes who make empty promises.

13 posted on 03/04/2021 4:34:22 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: cotton1706

Republicans lost all 3 of those in 2006-2008. He’s not very well informed.


14 posted on 03/04/2021 4:55:02 AM PST by rb22982 ( )
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To: central_va
Go back to import tariffs.

If you mean eliminate the progressive income tax entirely and go back to import terrorists as the exclusive means of funding the federal government, the Jeffersonians in our conservative movement would then of necessity square off with the Hamiltonian's among us.

As an aside, is a bit ironical to consider that Jefferson is supposed to be the founder of the agrarian, anti-bank, anti-tariff Democrat party and Hamilton, the founder of the central bank, powerful central government, pro-business, anti-tariff tight money party have now found their personas swapping sides, perhaps against their posthumous will. At least Hamilton seems to be popular among Democrats who now have become the party of big business, relatively anti-tariff, and very pro big bank, big spending, big business whence their donations flow.

We conservatives seem to be finding more and more in common with Mr. Jefferson.


15 posted on 03/04/2021 4:56:57 AM PST by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: cotton1706
The old WhiGOPer is making one of those ridiculous "Up is really down/wet is really dry" arguments.

Let the primarying begin!

16 posted on 03/04/2021 4:59:41 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: nathanbedford

I think tariffs can and should replace the income tax but it could not replace the payroll tax(es) for medicare and SS.


17 posted on 03/04/2021 5:02:51 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: nathanbedford
We conservatives seem to be finding more and more in common with Mr. Jefferson.

Correct. Plus I like black chicks.

18 posted on 03/04/2021 5:03:25 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Alberta's Child

The promises weren’t empty. They were cynical lies.


19 posted on 03/04/2021 5:09:22 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: JonPreston

Is that a dead possum perched on his head?

CC


20 posted on 03/04/2021 5:15:27 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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