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These 7 American States Are On The Verge Of Herd Immunity
Dawson County Journal ^ | 02/27/2021 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 02/27/2021 1:27:16 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Nothing seems to scare the establishment more than a return to 'normal'. And by 'normal', we mean a return to an environment outside of the tyrannical control of career politicians and bureaucrats who have got a taste for this 'being king' stuff and know that anyone who questions their edicts will be 'canceled' by their Covidian cultists.

So, a week after Johns Hopkins surgeon, Dr. Marty Makary, penned an Op-ed in the WSJ saying that we will have herd immunity by April... and was instantly disavowed as 'dangerous', some awkward 'facts' and 'science' have been dropped by none other than FundStrat's Tom Lee.

"...cumulatively and slowly, the US is seeing more states reach that combined level of vaccinations + infections approach what is seen as herd immunity.”

Source

So far, South Dakota, North Dakota, Rhode Island, Arizona, Oklahoma, Utah, and Tennessee are the nearest.

Lee's "math" - which we also know is racist - appears to fit with Makary's arguments for why the recent plunge in cases, hospitalizations, and deaths is not policy-related (no matter how much the politicians and their media lackeys push that narrative):

"...the consistent and rapid decline in daily cases since Jan. 8 can be explained only by natural immunity. Behavior didn’t suddenly improve over the holidays; Americans traveled more over Christmas than they had since March. Vaccines also don’t explain the steep decline in January. Vaccination rates were low and they take weeks to kick in."

"Experts should level with the public about the good news..." exclaims Makary, and this data on imminent herd immunity puts more pressure on Fauci and Biden to come clean... despite their variant-fearmongering and "no return to normal until Christmas or beyond" predictions.

But of course, this reality may never be allowed in the national narrative, as Makary previously concluded:

"Some medical experts privately agreed with my prediction that there may be very little Covid-19 by April but suggested that I not to talk publicly about herd immunity because people might become complacent and fail to take precautions or might decline the vaccine. But scientists shouldn’t try to manipulate the public by hiding the truth. As we encourage everyone to get a vaccine, we also need to reopen schools and society to limit the damage of closures and prolonged isolation. Contingency planning for an open economy by April can deliver hope to those in despair and to those who have made large personal sacrifices."

But, but, the science!?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: North Dakota; US: Oklahoma; US: Rhode Island; US: South Dakota; US: Tennessee; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: covid19; drmakary; gainoffunction; herdimmunity; vaccination
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To: mosaicwolf

Outstanding movie.


61 posted on 02/27/2021 5:55:51 PM PST by EEGator
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To: DannyTN

“4 times the detected cases are infected? what evidence?”

CDC conducts a seroprevalence survey for antibodies in random blood samples (routine lab tests), to estimate the number of cases in the population at large (rather than just those cases confirmed by tests like the PCR).

The antibodies only persist at detectable levels for a month or two after an infection. The ratio between these random population samples, and confirmed positive cases (from PCR tests) has varied between 10-25 % at different times. Early on, few infections were detected by the limited tests available, but at other times lots of testing was available.

Dr. Makary from John Hopkins, who published the Op-Ed in the Wall Street Journal on 18 Feb (the one that predicts herd immunity in April), estimated about 6.5 undetected cases on average, for every positive COVID-19 case confirmed.

He used another approach as well - comparing the rate of death from known infections (IFR), to the number of total COVID deaths in the Country. Between those two approaches, he estimates that between 1/2 and 2/3rds of the population may have already been exposed.


62 posted on 02/27/2021 6:24:34 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: pnz1

Have you ever driven behind a car with the occupants smoking weed? You can smell it inside your vehicle with the Windows up at highway speeds. Last time I was in San Francisco you could easily identify the cars ahead of you smoking and driving.

Now realise that those smoke particles that are triggering your olfactory system were once inside that person’s lungs you are not smelling second hand smoke that is a small amount of the total particulates load. Now also realise that the amount of particulates needed to trigger your olfactory receptors are in the few thousands of particulates. Then take into account that the number of coronavirus virons needed for inoculation is between 50 and 100 with the average individual 2 to 5 micron sized respiratory particulate carrying 10 to 50 of them. The simple fact is if you can smell “air” that has been in somes lungs you already inhaled enough to be inoculated and infected with SARS covid II it is absolutely an aersolized virus. Face diapers won’t protect you from an airborne particle spread virus but N99 and P100 respirators absolutely will and thisw should be worn not only in public but also while in the airstream of any possible infection sources.


63 posted on 02/27/2021 6:51:04 PM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: DannyTN
My anecdotal stories are much worse with a high percentage of hospitalizations and a couple of deaths. But I’m glad your friend had a very mild case.

Thanks, but my point was there could very well be a substantial number of cases that are not reported above the "official" count.

64 posted on 02/27/2021 8:05:56 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Biden's favorite word: What?)
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To: absalom01

All liberals have fears and can only alleviate them by obsessive control of other peopl’s behaviors. The far left has twisted this so that all people must share in their fears, so they will be willingly be controlled. They hate people who don’t share their fears and won’t submit to their behavioral orders. Cancel culture is their last silly attempt to get you to submit. Pathetic juvenile behavior.


65 posted on 02/27/2021 8:31:39 PM PST by arizonarick
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To: Jane Long

I haven’t seen that out here-not many locals even wear masks in the stores out here-I really can’t picture someone wearing a mask in a truck, all alone-I’d have to start laughing if I did-a person who does that has got to have serious obsessive issues with germs...


66 posted on 02/27/2021 8:35:20 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...")
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To: VeniVidiVici

That’s true and it is possible it’s as high as 4x or 6x.
But I’m not convinced.

It’s also possible that many people already had immunity of one form or another. But I’m not convinced of that either.


67 posted on 02/27/2021 8:53:26 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: arizonarick

Well, yes, that’s true. I guess I’m really trying to figure out why the Left’s messaging works at all, on anyone, as it seems to me to be so transparently absurd. Fear is at the core, for sure.


68 posted on 02/27/2021 8:54:30 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: SeekAndFind; 100American; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

I think herd immunity by April is great!

Such miserable people they are, to think of herd immunity as a threat to their own power. They should be ready and willing to happily give that power back to the people.


69 posted on 02/28/2021 1:10:21 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (GOP-free since 10/9/20)
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To: DannyTN
Herd immunity occurs at 60%. Many have postulated that 70% or 80% would be needed

I tend to think that the authorities are actually lowballing the R0, and that it spreads more like measles (R0 = 14) in a crowded situation. With that, a good herd immunity would be more like 95%. However, getting near that in April would be great!

70 posted on 02/28/2021 1:12:36 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (GOP-free since 10/9/20)
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To: SeekAndFind; Vermont Lt; BobL; Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; Tilted Irish Kilt; Jane Long; ...

Good news!

Coronavirus PING!


71 posted on 02/28/2021 1:15:10 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (GOP-free since 10/9/20)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

YAY !!!!

TN is included !!!

So let’s cruise !!!


72 posted on 02/28/2021 2:51:07 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“herd immunity by April is great!

Such miserable people they are, to think of herd immunity as a threat to their own power. They should be ready and willing to happily give that power back to the people.”

Those B$ers/miserable people are on both sides of the political spectrum.

Read the responses in this posting, and you can see the reality.

When this virus came around big time to America last March, if any of us posted about herd immunity, we were jumped on as idiots.

Writing about this virus has become a cottage industry for many, and the last thing they want is a full blown herd immunity.

Well it is coming, and they can’t stop it.


73 posted on 02/28/2021 6:51:51 AM PST by Grampa Dave (History, as we know it, is written by the winners not losers! Who is rewriting our history, now????)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I forgot to say, “Thanks for the ping!”


74 posted on 02/28/2021 7:01:50 AM PST by Grampa Dave (History, as we know it, is written by the winners not losers! Who is rewriting our history, now????)
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To: rb22982
"Herd immunity with virtually no transmission probably is 70 or 80%, but at 60%, your R0 drops well below 1, which means it is going to burn out quickly, hence why the WSJ suggests by the end of April."

Great post. Which is why Xiden and Fauxi's strategy will switch up to permit megaconcerts as super-spreader events, by no less than Xiden's favorite toy boy Garth Brooks.


75 posted on 02/28/2021 7:14:46 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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To: DannyTN; null and void; SeekAndFind; All

I agree with your 3 questions. I see the Confirmed Infections line really soared after the holidays. Also the death rate moved up shortly after the holidays and stayed at this high level until mid February. This may have encourage a lot of people to go home and be careful.

I have been closely following data on worldometers Covid-19 US. Especially the Maryland, Virginia, DC trends. DC as a relatively small, dense urban area currently has 1441 deaths per million. Virginia just under 1000/mm, and Maryland slightly over 1300/mm. What is surprising is that 26 states have higher deaths per million rates than DC. DC seems to be more careful with masking and distancing, although MD and VA have gotten better over time. Visitors for demonstrations do not use masks much, but observers on the sidewalks usually do. If you go to worldometers it is interesting to click the Predictions located at the far right for each state and look at the 6 charts provided for each state.


76 posted on 02/28/2021 10:14:03 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: CedarDave

Kristi was wonderful. I would love to see her run in 2024.

When she spoke about her father, it was so poignant...there wasn’t a dry eye in the house.


77 posted on 02/28/2021 11:37:47 AM PST by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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