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Dinesh D'Souza: $5,000 online college program would crush liberal hold on higher education
Just the News ^ | February 22, 2021 | Natalia Mittelstadt

Posted on 02/22/2021 4:33:53 AM PST by gattaca

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To: gattaca
Part of the debate will end up being, "What do you need to know at the end of the program in order to get a degree?"

Fifty plus years ago, in my first income tax course at the University of Illinois at Chicago, the professor made a joke: "There are 3 rules of taxation you need to memorize. Somebody will be changing everything else, so be prepared to keep looking up current law to know what to do."

We all laughed, but that statement remains one of the few things I learned in college that is still true today. Of course, the first tax course was a requirement to earn a BS in Accounting, and he was the only professor teaching that class, so we all heard it.

21 posted on 02/22/2021 6:59:29 AM PST by Bernard (“When once the guardian angel has taken flight, everything is lost”. – William H. Seward, 1/12/1861)
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To: SMARTY
"What does that tell us? If you don’t want to learn and won’t apply yourself, no amount of money will get you an education. If you want to learn and you apply yourself, you will succeed despite all/any obstacles"

The problem is that those TEACHING the kids are NOT "teaching" them (like my mom and many of my relatives did fifty years ago). Today's "educators" teach nothing, but tell the children that they "know things"...when in fact they do not.

22 posted on 02/22/2021 7:14:58 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Sick to Death of Surrender Monkeys!)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Right-When we were in grade school and HS, there were some simple and very precise tests to determine whether or not you ‘got it’ Students’ ‘feelings’ were not part of the calculation.

None of that goes on now. I especially remember our grade school teachers... no way was anyone going to fudge on THEIR lessons


23 posted on 02/22/2021 7:26:21 AM PST by SMARTY (“If you have ten thousand regulations, you destroy all respect for the law.” Winston Churchill)
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To: Vermont Lt
"This wouldn’t work for every subject...but it would for very many of them."

For the difficult degrees in subjects like medicine and engineering, a credible central testing site would have to be a requirement. For other subjects, a simple test would suffice.

Women's studies: Men are bad. Answer - True. Ok you pass.

Ethnic studies: White people are racist. Answer - True. Ok - you pass.

History:
1. People of color are peaceful and loving and never oppressed anyone. Answer - True.
2. White men have always oppressed the entire world. Answer - True. Ok - you pass.

24 posted on 02/22/2021 7:49:56 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: gattaca

I like the concept but I am of the opinion that a “University Marketplace” would be a better concept. Basically each class has a required set of tests / labs. The University then assembles a syllabus of classes/videos/books etc that are recommended for study for each subject. Classes than then be selected and taken by the student from the instructor that has a teaching style that best fits the student’s learning method.

There is already a similar structure in the IT world. Between YouTube, Udemy, CBTNuggets and others, there are a wide range of topics covered in these online classes that can be purchased individually or in groups.

That way, those that already know the material and need little if any classwork or training can proceed directly to testing. Those that need a lot of help can go find the assistance that they need, and teachers/professors/instructors can get paid for their instruction.

What the student pays the “university” for is the tracking and record of progress and conference of a degree or certification upon completion of the criteria.


25 posted on 02/22/2021 8:25:04 AM PST by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: Enterprise

When I was doing re-engineering we learned that you don’t hold up 90% of the process for 10%. So few overall students/courses would require in person, you could easily reconfigure most 2 year undergrad courses for free. Centralized skills testing already exists for state level exams for paramedics and nurses, as well as other listening. The technology exists.

I think if I win powerball I will start this.


26 posted on 02/22/2021 8:41:35 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: gattaca

What about science labs?


27 posted on 02/22/2021 9:46:50 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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"What about science labs?"

And THAT is the exact weak spot. The "online" plan is good, if only classroom instruction is required. Unfortunately, many fields of expertise (and not just science) require hands-on experience. There is no substitute for it. Figure out how to do THAT, and you've got "a winner".

28 posted on 02/22/2021 10:05:38 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Sick to Death of Surrender Monkeys!)
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What about science labs?

We could still use the labs at a community college as the rooms aren't exactly overused.

29 posted on 02/22/2021 10:08:10 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: gattaca

Learn plumbing. Plumbers make a fortune.


30 posted on 02/22/2021 10:09:08 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: 1Old Pro

I’m not talking about entry-level physics or chemistry. As for my major (geology), there is no community college in the land that would have the necessary samples and such for the upper level classes.


31 posted on 02/22/2021 11:08:43 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: gattaca
What would crush the college scam is overturning Griggs v Duke Power, which prohibited companies from using standardized tests in hiring and promotion decisions, if such tests had worse pass rates for minority candidates.

Get rid of that, and a home-schooled 18 year old who passed the tests for literacy, writing ability, and technical knowledge would win the job over a college graduate with a lower score.

32 posted on 02/22/2021 11:28:47 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Vermont Lt

I’m crossing my fingers and hope you win the POWERBALL. Who knows though. If you can convince enough backers you might not need to win the POWERBALL. Start small, start local, and maybe it will take off.


33 posted on 02/22/2021 11:34:40 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: rdcbn1; V K Lee; Liz; rlmorel; GOPJ

You can already get a world class education watching YouTube videos from MIT, Stanford, Yale and a host other colleges.

* * * *

Yes, The Teaching Company pioneered audiotapes and CDs and now videos in their Great Courses series.

I used to take those audios out from my local library and listen during my commute. What a wonderful use of time.

One of my favorites was Professor Arnold Weinstein of Brown University and his Classics of American Literature

https://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/classics-of-american-literature

All that’s really required is to wrap some discussion and exercises around these audios by the finest professors.

Bill O’Reilly’s series of audios and David McCullough’s books on audiotape. This is the stuff of great education in the humanities.

In truth, computer programming can be mastered on-line. And many sites such as w3schools.com are already performing this function.

Love this initiative of Dinesh D’Sousa. He’s on the right track...


34 posted on 02/23/2021 5:01:55 AM PST by poconopundit (Hard oak fist in an Irish velvet glove: Kayleigh the Shillelagh we salute your work!)
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To: poconopundit

Mit is trying to figure out how to connect the watcher to the tester, then one will be able to get a degree from there online. Matter of time.


35 posted on 02/23/2021 5:17:51 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: poconopundit
Over the years, I have had some very bad Profs and I've had a number of students who have probably considered me not the best while a vast majority were of the opposite opinion.

A lot comes down to how an instructors teaching stye and approach fit a students learning stye and background and how the course subject matter is tailored to mesh with the individual students curriculum

The ability to select an online Prof out of a slate of instructors on an online menu to meet an individual students learning needs is a very positive feature, as is the ability to learn the subject matter by watching two or more profs teach the same subject matter from different perspectives and teaching styles can be a powerful learning tool.

As is the ability to refer a student to another instructors better or more in depth treatment of a particularly difficult or critical aspect of the subject matter.

36 posted on 02/23/2021 6:16:11 AM PST by rdcbn1 (e)
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To: billorites

Wife just signed up this year at SNHU online for her masters.


37 posted on 02/23/2021 6:24:49 AM PST by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: poconopundit

Dinesh gas much to offer for serious consideration.


38 posted on 02/23/2021 9:06:16 AM PST by V K Lee (Resist, we will! Remember, we must!)
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To: gattaca

Not crazy about him

Problematic

But it’s a decent idea......but college is more than school


39 posted on 02/23/2021 9:07:28 AM PST by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG)
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To: LilFarmer

Falwell som is a bonafide freak
As is his wife

The school to their credit axed him but good

I’m sure liberty is fine


40 posted on 02/23/2021 9:08:45 AM PST by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG)
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