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1 posted on 02/17/2021 6:53:27 PM PST by karpov
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2 posted on 02/17/2021 6:58:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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What’s Biden doing? Trump would have already had help there.


3 posted on 02/17/2021 7:06:07 PM PST by ryderann
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When I was a kid, we had a large propane tank on our farm.

The guy would come and fill it up every so often.

If I were in the countryside, I’d have one of those if it
is still allowed.


5 posted on 02/17/2021 7:08:39 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The Republican Party is dead. Long live the Founders Party.)
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An electricity grid that relies on renewables also needs nuclear or coal power.

And a communist country requires at least one capitalist country to steal from.

6 posted on 02/17/2021 7:09:24 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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Maybe they could replace their frozen turbines with some of these Egyptian fan wavers, to generate the wind and the electricity they need, on these frigid evenings...


     

7 posted on 02/17/2021 7:12:39 PM PST by Songcraft
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There was no redundancy or back up systems in our Texas grid.

Only enough generation for estimated max requirement in best conditions.

Dad was a EE beginning with Texas Electic.

As the company changed hands & names, he said that forecasting demands was never in the plans. Just catching up to the demands was to be the norm, nothing more.

10 posted on 02/17/2021 7:17:12 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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Texas screwed up plain and simple.

Texas requires 24 million barrels of natural gas per day. Natural gas transmission lines froze and was only able to deliver 12-14 million per day and plants had to be shut down. Texas felt they did not need water separators on their transmission lines.They were told to do so in 2011 the last time they had below average temps.

This is why in my great state above the largest gas deposits in the country we have water separators..something Texas felt they did not need.

Read this aerticle and it explains fully why Texas is out of electric power.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/natural-gas-power-storm/


11 posted on 02/17/2021 7:20:52 PM PST by setter
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Well DUH Wall Street Journal.....


15 posted on 02/17/2021 7:36:43 PM PST by Dawgreg
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>>While millions of Texans remain without power for a third day, the wind industry and its advocates are spinning a fable that gas, coal and nuclear plants—not their frozen turbines—are to blame. PolitiFact proclaims “Natural gas, not wind turbines, main driver of Texas power shortage.” Climate-change conformity is hard for the media to resist, but we don’t mind. So here are the facts to cut through the spin.

Natural Gas has been producing 65% of the energy today in Texas (all day) and wind about 8%.

https://www.eia.gov/beta/electricity/gridmonitor/dashboard/daily_generation_mix/regional/REG-TEX


17 posted on 02/17/2021 7:49:07 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Call on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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>>While millions of Texans remain without power for a third day, the wind industry and its advocates are spinning a fable that gas, coal and nuclear plants—not their frozen turbines—are to blame. PolitiFact proclaims “Natural gas, not wind turbines, main driver of Texas power shortage.” Climate-change conformity is hard for the media to resist, but we don’t mind. So here are the facts to cut through the spin.

Natural Gas has been producing 65% of the energy today in Texas (all day) and wind about 8%.

https://www.eia.gov/beta/electricity/gridmonitor/dashboard/daily_generation_mix/regional/REG-TEX


18 posted on 02/17/2021 7:49:07 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Call on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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In the USA there is absolutely NO NEED for windmills or solar panels to provide us with One Watt of energy. None. A country that was so very recently a Net Exporter of oil and NatGas has no need for such.


19 posted on 02/17/2021 7:49:48 PM PST by ocrp1982
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Nah! Simply double the solar panels and wind turbines. That ought do it. 😯


21 posted on 02/17/2021 7:52:53 PM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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those texas oil fields, active or not, have a lot of natural gas in them as well


22 posted on 02/17/2021 7:55:10 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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>>Some readers have questioned our reporting Wednesday (”The Political Making of a Texas Power Outage”) that wind’s share of electricity generation in Texas plunged to 8% from 42%. How can that be, they wonder, when the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (Ercot) has reported that it counts on wind to meet only 10% of its winter capacity.
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>>Ercot’s disclosure is slippery. Start with the term “capacity,” which means potential maximum output. This is different than actual power generation. Texas has a total winter capacity of about 83,000 megawatts (MW) including all power sources. Total power demand and generation, however, at their peak are usually only around 57,000 MW. Regulators build slack into the system.

“Capacity” is a loaded term.

An emergency order has been declared this week to permit the capacity from other sources to be raised by raising the pollution amounts that will be permitted. It’s a green regulation issue.

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2021/02/f82/DOE%20202%28c%29%20Emergency%20Order%20-%20ERCOT%2002.14.2021.pdf

The order specified increasing the priority of gas supplies to ERCOT generators. ERCOT’s application also noted that the “Texas Commission on Environmental Quality has indicated that it will provide enforcement discretion to generators in the ERCOT region that may exceed state emissions requirements during emergency conditions.”

According to ERCOT, the measures taken by ERCOT and other state agencies may not prove sufficient to avoid rotating outages of as much as 4,000 MW. Moreover, 1 ERCOT, Grid Operator Requests Energy Conservation for System Reliability,

ERCOT has been alerted that numerous generation units will be unable to operate at full capacity without violating federal air quality or other permit limitations.


23 posted on 02/17/2021 7:56:14 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Call on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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>>Some readers have questioned our reporting Wednesday (”The Political Making of a Texas Power Outage”) that wind’s share of electricity generation in Texas plunged to 8% from 42%. How can that be, they wonder, when the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (Ercot) has reported that it counts on wind to meet only 10% of its winter capacity.
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>>Ercot’s disclosure is slippery. Start with the term “capacity,” which means potential maximum output. This is different than actual power generation. Texas has a total winter capacity of about 83,000 megawatts (MW) including all power sources. Total power demand and generation, however, at their peak are usually only around 57,000 MW. Regulators build slack into the system.

“Capacity” is a loaded term.

An emergency order has been declared this week to permit the capacity from other sources to be raised by raising the pollution amounts that will be permitted. It’s a green regulation issue.

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2021/02/f82/DOE%20202%28c%29%20Emergency%20Order%20-%20ERCOT%2002.14.2021.pdf

The order specified increasing the priority of gas supplies to ERCOT generators. ERCOT’s application also noted that the “Texas Commission on Environmental Quality has indicated that it will provide enforcement discretion to generators in the ERCOT region that may exceed state emissions requirements during emergency conditions.”

According to ERCOT, the measures taken by ERCOT and other state agencies may not prove sufficient to avoid rotating outages of as much as 4,000 MW. Moreover, 1 ERCOT, Grid Operator Requests Energy Conservation for System Reliability,

ERCOT has been alerted that numerous generation units will be unable to operate at full capacity without violating federal air quality or other permit limitations.


24 posted on 02/17/2021 7:56:14 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Call on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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Helpful article. Media is trying so hard to defend ‘renewables’.

Saw a great explanation of renewables use in the grid and it concluded they were great for up to 15% of supply, but then failed as they approached 20%.
No idea how to find it now.


25 posted on 02/17/2021 7:56:29 PM PST by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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>>Regulators don't count on wind to provide much more than 10% or so of the grid's total capacity since they can't command turbines to increase power like they can coal and gas plants.

It is supposed to be 23% of the mix.

“What types of electricity are generated in Texas? Natural-gas-fired power plants generated 40% of Texas's electricity in 2020, according to Ercot, the largest single source. Wind turbines were second at 23%, followed by coal at 18% and nuclear at 11%”

Natural-gas-fired power plants generated 40%
Wind turbines were second at 23%
coal at 18%
nuclear at 11%

and 2019

30 posted on 02/17/2021 8:05:32 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Call on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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They cut cornets and didn’t equip their wind turbines with de-icing systems like those in northern states have. Turbines continue to operate down to -30 degrees all the time.

It’s engineering. Texas did it wrong.


33 posted on 02/17/2021 8:10:16 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan. )
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with supplemental power derived from wind turbines or solar panels. However before relying on them, their short comings always should be taken into consideration and back ups such as gas, coal or nuclear power should be available if and when needed. And I have a feeling with the weather becoming more and more erratic judging by what is going on worldwide we will see more of such things happening.


35 posted on 02/17/2021 8:16:01 PM PST by saintgermaine (THE TIME TRAVELLER )
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With wind or solar, a fast responding system such as gas fueled turbines is required to compensate for the recognized possibility of a sudden generation shortfall.


41 posted on 02/17/2021 8:41:53 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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