Woman killed in dispute over political sign [Homeowner arrested for killing thief who stole Trump sign in Mount Vernon, Washington]

Fox 5 New York ^ | February 16, 2021

[Persevero]

I’d guess ultimately the hope is in a decent jury, not the police.

[ETL]

Wow...a wheelbarrow.

The two leftist lunatics were using the wheelbarrow as a ram to break down the couple's door! They were/are obviously dangerous nut jobs.

[mabarker1]

No that’s not what Castle Doctrine is.

Only if the shoplifter shoots at You or aims at You first or is shooting someone else.

Again this is Texas I’m talking about. Other States maybe but I’d check with a Lawyer, check the NRA they have a list of States Laws. The text I posted was from a Wikipedia page for all States.

Your mileage may vary.

[ridesthemiles]

NOT just theft...TRESPASSING also.

Come onto MY property & you WILL FACE the consequences.

[zeugma]

Hoping there is more to the story- I don’t approve of theft but you can’t shoot someone for simply stealing. You have to believe your life is in danger.

Depends upon where you live. If it's after dusk, and before dawn in Texas, you most certainly can.

[Persevero]

Yes as a juror I’d consider that.

[ridesthemiles]

Too many weapons are too easy to hide. Even harder in the dark to see anything.

[Chode]

works for me

[mdmathis6]

According to another article cited on this thread it wasn’t a Trump sign but a sign for the Republican candidate for governor. The writer(or -ers) of the the main thread article appears to be amping up the antitrump angle.

[moovova]

Exactly...who in their right mind tries to batter somebody’s door down with a wheelbarrow? These people were dangerous.

[Do_Tar]

> This is what non-lethal devices are made for. Rubber bullets or rock salt is what would be best if you have to shoot to protect your property.

Both are still considered lethal force and assault with a deadly weapon. At least if a normal citizen uses them.

[wardaddy]

Dead person is a woman.....32 years old

[wardaddy]

No need to scream....I hear you and your anti Protestant bigotry loud and clear

[DarthVader]

Depends on where you live.

[PapaBear3625]

The homeowner’s big mistake: they should have called 911 at the first sign of trouble. Not in any expectation that the cops would arrive in time to do any good, but rather because whoever calls 911 FIRST has established the story that the cops will follow.

If someone is messing with your car, call in “car robbery in progress” before confronting anybody. It establishes that, in your mind, AND in the cops minds, you were dealing with a felony in progress.

[JimRed]

Don’t call the police. learn to shoot arrows / bolts for situations like this where the leftist is unarmed.

Ahhh, yes, the ol' Triple S; Shoot, Shovel and Shut up!

[liberalh8ter]

Sad to say that in this day and age it's entirely plausible that it wasn't a Trump sign but would be reported as such.

[mdmathis6]

There was a picture of the sign on one of the local links posted on the thread...it was a sign for Culp.

[ETL]

There was a picture of the sign on one of the local links posted on the thread...it was a sign for Culp.

Yes, according to at least one report, it was a neighbor who had said that.

And, in light of that, check out the parts below that I highlighted in bold type...

Meet Loren Culp, the Republican gubernatorial candidate who wants to unseat Jay Inslee

Sep. 20, 2020, Updated Oct. 5, 2020
By Jim Brunner
Seattle Times political reporter

A proud conservative who rose to prominence for refusing to enforce a voter-passed gun-control initiative, Republic Police Chief Loren Culp says government should be small and mostly butt out of people’s lives.

REPUBLIC, Ferry County — On the dusty, unpaved road leading to Loren Culp’s house, a no trespassing sign calls out a warning to “all public officials or agents thereof.”

Quoting the U.S. Constitution, the sign declares any officer or person who attempts to enter the property without a warrant “will be treated as any other intruder would” when attempting to “extort, injure, oppress, threaten, harass, intimidate …”

In case that isn’t clear enough, visitors may consider the message in the road’s name, which Culp picked himself: Goa Way.

The prickly pun fits with the platform of the small-town police chief running as the Republican challenger to Democratic Gov. Jay Inslee. A proud conservative who rose to prominence for refusing to enforce a voter-passed gun-control initiative, Culp says government should be small and mostly butt out of people’s lives.

That means few or no restrictions on firearms — Culp doesn’t support a ban on bump stock devices, which allow rifles to fire like machine guns. He’d end mandatory mask orders and shutdowns of businesses meant to slow the spread of COVID-19.

“I am not anti-government. I am anti big government. They need to stay in their lane and mind their business,” Culp said.

A no trespassing sign outside Loren Culp’s property in Republic, Ferry County. (Jim Brunner / The Seattle Times)

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/who-is-loren-culp-the-gubernatorial-candidate-who-lives-on-goa-way-with-eyes-fixed-on-olympia/

[ETL]

The couple may well have had more than one sign...

“Police did not release information about the sign but other residents, reacting to the crime on a local message board, say the woman had a Trump sign in the yard and the victim tried to take it.”

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/woman-killed-in-dispute-over-political-sign