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To: miserare; God_Country_Trump_Guns

Might be a troll, taking advantage of a chaotic situation but might not be.

I am not a troll, and that’s why I’m replying to you (miserare) and not the others piling on him (her?) on this thread. But anyone who wishes can look up not only my join date but my posting history, which clearly shows support not only for Trump but any cause or person contrary to the scourge of leftism in this country. Back to 2001.

With that said I agree with what he wrote. On its face I personally believe it’s just not reasonable to claim the election was “stolen” from Trump. As the poster in question subsequently posted, I too also believe there are isolated incidents of fraud but not enough to justify any belief it was stolen from Trump.

See here: https://twitter.com/jonathantcasey/status/1342303141975515136?s=21m

That’s a collection of court cases that demonstrate any significant “evidence” that could be used to justify reversing the election results was indeed investigated by the courts but sadly found to be lacking. IOW, Trump’s losses in court were *not* simply because of some technicality, because of only “standing” or some such, despite what many on the “right” have told us, but at least a good many were thrown out because the evidence itself was lacking. That should be enough for anyone (like me) who values the rule of law over everything (even if such rules deny “my guy”, “the win”).

I too, like “God Guns Country Trump”, believed until late December that the election was stolen from Trump. You (or anyone reading this) can believe that about me or not if you want. But it seems pretty clear to me from what I’ve found even beyond the documents in that Twitter thread that there was no “rock” unturned here. There is much more to be said beyond that collection, and I’ve been mulling posting an entire “vanity” thread about what I’ve found. But that thread is an excellent starting point IMO. A starting point as a way out of all the apparent conspiracy theory nonsense that seems to have taken root even sadly here on FR.

I humbly submit to you (a FReeper I recognize and respect) and anyone reading this now, one must let go this idea that the election was stolen from Trump. He was a great President I’m not saying he wasn’t. But for the sake of simple rationality, I submit its time to move on.


195 posted on 02/05/2021 8:47:56 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

You may not be a troll, but you have your head so far up your poop shute you cannot smell anything but your own stench.


198 posted on 02/05/2021 10:02:46 PM PST by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: FourtySeven

Not one case was judged on the merits. They were all procedural matters.


200 posted on 02/05/2021 10:27:57 PM PST by DMD13
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To: FourtySeven

That’s a collection of court cases that demonstrate any significant “evidence” that could be used to justify reversing the election results was indeed investigated by the courts but sadly found to be lacking. IOW, Trump’s losses in court were *not* simply because of some technicality, because of only “standing” or some such, despite what many on the “right” have told us, but at least a good many were thrown out because the evidence itself was lacking. That should be enough for anyone (like me) who values the rule of law over everything (even if such rules deny “my guy”, “the win”).
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Well that is the MSM Party Line. I think you are wrong but it should be easy enough for you to prove otherwise.

If evidence of fraud was actually investigated in any of these cases there would have to be some record of what was discovered that would disprove the evidence we have all seen. So why don’t you present that data so we can be convinced of the validity of your position.

Warning: Lack of Standing is a cop out. It’s good enough for Chuck and Nancy and the NYT but it’s never going to convince the Freepers.


201 posted on 02/05/2021 10:50:42 PM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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To: FourtySeven

You should post a vanity thread. Many Freepers would like to debate this with you.

Moving on does not mean forgetting the past, refusing to hear all arguments, or burying our heads in the sand.


240 posted on 02/06/2021 2:15:56 PM PST by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: FourtySeven

Just another one who hasn’t bothered with looking at the ABSOLUTE TRUTH of the blatant stealing of the election. Easier to just parrot the anti Trumper lies.


267 posted on 02/07/2021 9:06:53 AM PST by battletank
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