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Stop the Third Party Insanity
Townhall.com ^ | January 28, 2021 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 01/28/2021 4:07:38 AM PST by Kaslin

Ditching the GOP is a bad idea born of justifiable frustration, and we need to stop being emotional and start being ruthless in our campaign to retake this country from these liberal establishment aspiring fascists. A third party is not the way. It is a bad idea, one that is technically impractical and which is strategically inept. It will lead to disaster. And the Democrats know it, which is why they love this third party palaver. The only thing that makes the tooting likes of Eric Swalwell coo in delight harder than some mediocre Chi Com honeypot is the thought of us conservatives committing ritual suicide by splitting our half of the country in two because some of the 50 percent of Americans in our camp are insufferable sissies.

News flash, folks. We’re going to have to suffer the sissies forever. The question is whether they run the party apparatus, or whether they are consigned to the fringes, scribbling in their blogs about how True Conservatism™ requires that we go to war everywhere, that we allow giant corporations to limit our speech, and that we all wear vinyl gimp suits with ball gags and address Nancy Pelosi as “Mistress P.”

Just kidding.

The part about “we” going to war is a joke. You and your kids get to go to war while they, with very few exceptions, who never shut up about it, get to stay home and fight their endless war against push-ups and testosterone. The rest is pretty dead-on.

Let’s look at the big picture. The design of the Constitution essentially mandates a two-party system. A third party has never won the presidency, and one rarely wins legislative seats. Usually, such candidates call themselves “independents,” but Democrats know they are really Democrats and understand this is just a ploy to appeal to the suckers.

There is always going to be a party of the left, and a party of the right, with the battle over the middle. A party getting 55 percent of the vote is considered to have won in a landslide. America is that closely divided. For our sins, the party of the right is the Republican Party. And math says we are stuck with it.

You cannot divide the 50 percent of America on the right up and hope to beat the 50 percent on the left. It does not work, and all the hopes, dreams, and krakens of a million outraged conservatives on Twitter will not make it so. Politics must be about addition, and that implies we need to add people who are not as conservative as we are. If you want purity, date a nun. This is politics, and if you don’t win, you lose.

I propose we win.

Third parties do have a track record of disrupting elections. The Left blamed the Greens for Bush in 2000, and some blame the Libertarians, among other factors, for President * in 2020. Clinton won in 1992 because Perot split the vote for George H.W. Bush. But these events all have one thing in common – the third party never wins. Nor will one.

Trump himself seems to understand, walking back the “Patriot Party” stuff in order to settle in as a GOP kingmaker. He knows he loses in 2024 running as a third party candidate – 50 percent of people already hate him and some percentage of the GOP will stay GOP out of habit if nothing else. You can’t expect to win if you start off, best case, losing 50 percent + 1. But by remaining in the GOP – as its most popular figure by far – he has real power to influence events.

The third party talk also ignores the practical reality of the GOP’s irreplaceable infrastructure. A competitive national political party is a Broadway play, not a show some kids put on in a barn. While some imagine a sort of spontaneous, math-defying movement materializing out of the political ether, the reality is that a party structure performs essential tasks and there is no substitute for it. Who has the donor lists, the volunteer lists, the organization to drive get out the vote efforts? The party. You can’t patch one together overnight out of fervor and contempt for the squishes.

There are many things that are critical that go into a campaign and go on behind the scenes that most of us never even imagined. For example, who are the lawyers who worked for the GOP who know election law who will be leaving their GOP contracts to come and keep the “MAGA Party” candidates out of jail? You think the Establishment will give the “Constitutionalist Party” a pass for not understanding the campaign finance laws? And who pays these lawyers, assuming any really good ones want to flush their career in electoral law down the toilet to go all-in on a losing one-shot cause?

That’s just one example of many of the things a party infrastructure does, and no one is going to build another national structure (not to mention a structure in each of the 50 states) in the next four years. It is appealing to leave the jerks in the GOP behind, but if you do, you are choosing irrelevance.

But hey, you’re angry so you gotta cater to those feelz.

That’s stupid and weak. Tighten up. Yeah, the GOP establishment sucks – and no, you’re not the only one who has noticed. We are always going to have people near the center who frustrate us. That’s the reality, and being angry about it is like yelling at clouds. But what we can do – and have done – is slowly force the party to conform more closely to our vision. It’s like turning the Titanic, an apt metaphor if there ever was one, but it is happening already.

Look at the GOP just five years ago and look at it today. Yeah, we have the rump Renfield contingent with tiresome goofs like Mitt (R?-Miracle Whip). We have others who alternate between establishment-curious moderate wimpiness and coming through for us at many key junctures – Susan Collins, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham. But look at what we don’t have – Jeff Flake is gone. Jeb! is a flabby footnote. And as hard as Nikki! is trying to make herself happen, she’s not happening. The GOP has shifted our way – on wars, on culture, on tech, on playing to win. We have earned the support of Americans of all races in unprecedented numbers because we have focused on people who – remember this? – work hard and play by the rules. That’s progress. Not enough, not nearly, but to deny the progress because you are angry only empowers the people you are angry at. We can’t throw out what we have already achieved simply because we have much more work to do. Take the W, people.

We need to do more. We need to infiltrate the infrastructure and remake the Republican Party from the inside into a party for working Americans of every demographic who love their country and demand their rights, as opposed to the 2015 party that shafted working Americans so Democrat-donor big corporations can rig the system and let SJW twerps endlessly hassle us for the crime of being normal.

But Kurt, we do vote and sometimes we lose!

Yes. You will lose much of the time. This is called reality. People who compete often lose. The ones who don’t compete never lose, but they never win either.

Here’s your action plan. If you are a registered Republican, stay that way. If not, register Republican. Then vote in the primaries to rid ourselves of squishes. Then take the next step. Find your local GOP organization and join, then run for local party and then government offices. We need to build our farm team, and that means traveling along the American cursus honorum from GOP precinct captain to county GOP committee member to city council to state assembly to Congress and beyond.

Gee Kurt, that sounds like hard work.

It is. It’s a lot easier to declare you are never ever voting GOP again on Twitter. But I was under the impression that we are the faction that is not averse to hard work, especially when it is our country at stake. So, this is a test – if you’re serious about winning, you stay GOP.

A third party hands total control over to the left, and if you want to see what that scenario looks like, check out my newest novel Crisis, as well as my other four novels of America splitting into red and blue nations, People's Republic, Indian Country, Wildfire, and Collapse!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: backstabberromney; donaldtrump; gop; kurtschlichter; nevertrustaromney; republicanparty; romney4dnc; schlichter; teamromney; thirdparty
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The GOP is McConnell, Rubio, Romney, Collins... to Hell with them and the RNC machinery. These asswipes can find a home within the Rat party

I’d join a viable, Trump-like party in a heartbeat.


201 posted on 01/28/2021 4:40:31 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

After 30+ years as a Republican, I have left the party as of a few days ago. I will not be in the same party as Mitt Romney. He is a disgusting human being.


Wouldn’t it be better to make Mitt leave instead of you?


202 posted on 01/28/2021 4:41:11 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Kaslin

The third party is a threat. It is telling RINOs we’re tired of being talked down too, used, lied to, or treated like step children.

They cannot compromise, we cannot compromise with the tyrants that the democrats have become. We cannot be civil when they are not.

RINOs need to know they will support us or we will allow the demonrats to burn it down.

Burn it down
Burn it to the ground
Then, burn the ground.

This hill is the hill to die on. Join us or die.


203 posted on 01/28/2021 4:43:04 PM PST by Fai Mao (Biden is a pedophile, Kamala is a #%¥π.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

After 30+ years as a Republican, I have left the party as of a few days ago. I will not be in the same party as Mitt Romney. He is a disgusting human being.

Wouldn’t it be better to make Mitt leave instead of you?


You leaving lowers the IQ of the Republican Party, Mitt leaving would raise it.


204 posted on 01/28/2021 4:44:11 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Does so
“ A third party could flock unlucky Americans (and Illegals) to the new “SERF PARTY”

I’d say the Republicans have already done a good job of that. The Party never stood behind Trump, especially at the end. The GOP is in the firm hold of the global corporate interests, just as the Dems are. They are both bought and paid for. We’ve been told for 50 years to be patient and working within the party and we’ve lost ground every step of the way, until now it looks like the end game. The GOP does not represent you, they use and manipulate you, and they are beyond redemption “from within”. This may be our last chance so you better think long and hard on this one.

205 posted on 01/28/2021 4:44:15 PM PST by circlecity
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To: Alberta's Child

I think if Trump and the TEA Party types backed a new Patriot Party it would not be a “third party”. It would be the only big conservative party. The GOP would soon be the size of the Libertarian and Green Parties.


206 posted on 01/28/2021 4:44:24 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
You're thread was locked, so I'm replying to your here:

The uniparty has all but extinguished our way of life, and Schlichter calls trying to do something about it "insanity." Where's the animated gif of the young lady mouthing, "Yeah, Right..."

The definition of insanity is trying to do the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result. When it came our time to hold office, they gave us Bush, Romney, and McCain.

It makes me sick to think I voted for these RINOs.

Never Vote For Another Republican!

NVFAR...

207 posted on 01/28/2021 4:46:39 PM PST by amorphous
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To: Kaslin

No reason to stay with a party that doesn’t support the interests of its members and is completely spineless

there will only be 2 parties.

democrat and the patriot party.

the gop is dead


208 posted on 01/28/2021 4:47:13 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style )
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To: Kaslin
"A third party has never won the presidency"

Oh gee, we've been screwing up big time then, we should have been voting Whig all this time!

209 posted on 01/28/2021 4:54:54 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: House Atreides

Ah, insulting the aggrieved. That is going to be about as successful as Fox News’ constant reshuffling of their line up.


210 posted on 01/28/2021 4:56:34 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: RC one

Or we could just all register as Democrat and vote for joke candidates in the primaries to sow chaos.


211 posted on 01/28/2021 4:59:38 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Kaslin

The natural allies of an America first party may not necessarily be all Republican.


212 posted on 01/28/2021 5:06:18 PM PST by Stentor
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To: Alberta's Child

“Utah voters are dumber than bricks”

Well, they’re mostly descendants of people who thought “God told me I can sleep with your wife” was a convincing argument.


213 posted on 01/28/2021 5:07:15 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Peter W. Kessler

I’m with you 100%


214 posted on 01/28/2021 5:07:36 PM PST by LibertyWoman (It's NOT over until President Donald J Trump says it is)
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To: SmokingJoe

Ditching the Whigs is a bad idea born of justifiable frustration, and we need to stop being emotional and start being ruthless in our campaign to retake this country from these liberal establishment aspiring fascists. A third party is not the way. It is a bad idea, one that is technically impractical and which is strategically inept. It will lead to disaster. And the Democrats know it, which is why they love this third party palaver. The only thing that makes the tooting likes of Eric Swalwell coo in delight harder than some mediocre Chi Com honeypot is the thought of us conservatives committing ritual suicide by splitting our half of the country in two because some of the 50 percent of Americans in our camp are insufferable sissies.

News flash, folks. We’re going to have to suffer the sissies forever. The question is whether they run the party apparatus, or whether they are consigned to the fringes, scribbling in their blogs about how True Conservatism™ requires that we go to war everywhere, that we allow giant corporations to limit our speech, and that we all wear vinyl gimp suits with ball gags and address Nancy Pelosi as “Mistress P.”

Just kidding.

The part about “we” going to war is a joke. You and your kids get to go to war while they, with very few exceptions, who never shut up about it, get to stay home and fight their endless war against push-ups and testosterone. The rest is pretty dead-on.

Let’s look at the big picture. The design of the Constitution essentially mandates a two-party system. A third party has never won the presidency (except in 1860 and several times thereafter) , and one rarely wins legislative seats. Usually, such candidates call themselves “independents,” but Democrats know they are really Democrats and understand this is just a ploy to appeal to the suckers.

There is always going to be a party of the left, and a party of the right, with the battle over the middle. A party getting 55 percent of the vote is considered to have won in a landslide. America is that closely divided. For our sins, the party of the right is the Whig Party. And math says we are stuck with it.

You cannot divide the 50 percent of America on the right up and hope to beat the 50 percent on the left. It does not work, and all the hopes, dreams, and krakens of a million outraged conservatives on Twitter will not make it so. Politics must be about addition, and that implies we need to add people who are not as conservative as we are. If you want purity, date a nun. This is politics, and if you don’t win, you lose.

I propose we continue to lose.

Third parties do have a track record of disrupting elections (exccept starting in 1860). The Left blamed the Greens for Bush in 2000, and some blame the Libertarians, among other factors, for President * in 2020. Clinton won in 1992 because Perot split the vote for George H.W. Bush. But these events all have one thing in common – the third party never wins. Nor will one.

Trump himself seems to understand, walking back the “Patriot Party” stuff in order to settle in as a GOP kingmaker. He knows he loses in 2024 running as a third party candidate – 50 percent of people already hate him and some percentage of the GOP will stay GOP out of habit if nothing else. You can’t expect to win if you start off, best case, losing 50 percent + 1. But by remaining in the GOP – as its most popular figure by far – he has real power to influence events.

The third party talk also ignores the practical reality of the Whig’s irreplaceable infrastructure. A competitive national political party is a Broadway play, not a show some kids put on in a barn. While some imagine a sort of spontaneous, math-defying movement materializing out of the political ether, the reality is that a party structure performs essential tasks and there is no substitute for it. Who has the donor lists, the volunteer lists, the organization to drive get out the vote efforts? The party. You can’t patch one together overnight out of fervor and contempt for the squishes.

There are many things that are critical that go into a campaign and go on behind the scenes that most of us never even imagined. For example, who are the lawyers who worked for the GOP who know election law who will be leaving their GOP contracts to come and keep the “MAGA Party” candidates out of jail? You think the Establishment will give the “Constitutionalist Party” a pass for not understanding the campaign finance laws? And who pays these lawyers, assuming any really good ones want to flush their career in electoral law down the toilet to go all-in on a losing one-shot cause?

That’s just one example of many of the things a party infrastructure does, and no one is going to build another national structure (not to mention a structure in each of the 50 states) in the next four years. It is appealing to leave the jerks in the GOP behind, but if you do, you are choosing irrelevance.

But hey, you’re angry so you gotta cater to those feelz.

That’s stupid and weak. Tighten up. Yeah, the Whig establishment sucks – and no, you’re not the only one who has noticed. We are always going to have people near the center who frustrate us. That’s the reality, and being angry about it is like yelling at clouds. But what we can do – and have done – is slowly force the party to conform more closely to our vision. It’s like turning the Titanic, an apt metaphor if there ever was one, but it is happening already.

Look at the Whigs just five years ago and look at it today. Yeah, we have the rump Renfield contingent with tiresome goofs like Mitt (R?-Miracle Whip). We have others who alternate between establishment-curious moderate wimpiness and coming through for us at many key junctures – Susan Collins, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham. But look at what we don’t have – Jeff Flake is gone. Jeb! is a flabby footnote. And as hard as Nikki! is trying to make herself happen, she’s not happening. The Whig has shifted our way – on wars, on culture, on tech, on playing to win. We have earned the support of Americans of all races in unprecedented numbers because we have focused on people who – remember this? – work hard and play by the rules. That’s progress. Not enough, not nearly, but to deny the progress because you are angry only empowers the people you are angry at. We can’t throw out what we have already achieved simply because we have much more work to do. Take the W, people.

We need to do more. We need to infiltrate the infrastructure and remake the Whig Party from the inside into a party for working Americans of every demographic who love their country and demand their rights, as opposed to the 2015 party that shafted working Americans so Democrat-donor big corporations can rig the system and let SJW twerps endlessly hassle us for the crime of being normal.

But Kurt, we do vote and sometimes we lose!

Yes. You will lose much of the time. This is called reality. People who compete often lose. The ones who don’t compete never lose, but they never win either.

Here’s your action plan. If you are a registered Whig, stay that way. If not, register Whig. Then vote in the primaries to rid ourselves of squishes. Then take the next step. Find your local Whig organization and join, then run for local party and then government offices. We need to build our farm team, and that means traveling along the American circuit honorum from Whig precinct captain to county Whig committee member to city council to state assembly to Congress and beyond.

Gee Kurt, that sounds like hard work.

It is. It’s a lot easier to declare you are never ever voting Whig again on Twitter. But I was under the impression that we are the faction that is not averse to hard work, especially when it is our country at stake. So, this is a test – if you’re serious about winning, you stay Whig.

A third party hands total control over to the left, and if you want to see what that scenario looks like, check out my newest novel Crisis, as well as my other four novels of America splitting into red and blue nations, People’s Republic, Indian Country, Wildfire, and Collapse!


215 posted on 01/28/2021 5:12:54 PM PST by american_ranger
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To: Kaslin
Stop the third party insanity!!

That's probably what the Free Soil Party said about the Republican Party in 1854.

216 posted on 01/28/2021 5:18:39 PM PST by far sider
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To: Kaslin

Sissies scribbling in blogs?

Kinda like widdle Kurt is doing?

IMO, the republican party has failed us. They are more interested in back stabbing a popular President because he has shown that campaign promises can be kept. They are more interested in being the third string JV instead of being the winning team. In other words they prefer to be losers and kiss up to the likes of pelosi and schumer instead of fighting for us.


217 posted on 01/28/2021 5:22:38 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Merry Crisis, and a Happy New Fear)
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To: Kaslin

More useless words. There is no “two party” system. Republicans, Democrats...all part of the same destructive force that corrupted the greatest republic on the face of the Earth. Trump was the voice for patriots for four years. Look what they did to him. The ruling elites, Republicans, Democrats and other deep staters, will not allow this to happen again. Continual support of the GOP is stupid. If 2020 hasn’t proven the futility of the ballot box, then it has to be said we’re every bit the fools the ruling elites think we are. We do not deserve our liberties.


218 posted on 01/28/2021 5:23:25 PM PST by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: Kaslin

“His first name is spelled with a K, which is the German origin, also his last name is German origin”

https://youtu.be/MW1viRcDlO8


219 posted on 01/28/2021 5:35:21 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Merry Crisis, and a Happy New Fear)
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To: Kaslin

make Trump RNC Chair and lets make the 3% Estab have to create their own party! They will love it : )


220 posted on 01/28/2021 5:44:42 PM PST by Democrats hate too much
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