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CHARLIE KIRK: Pence Has Power And Precedent To Reject Electors On Jan. 6, Triggering Contingent Election
National File ^ | January 4, 2021 | GABRIEL KEANE

Posted on 01/04/2021 6:26:57 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

In a video posted to YouTube on Monday, Turning Point USA founder and Republican activist Charlie Kirk explained the legal precedent for Vice President Mike Pence to reject state electors on Jan. 6, noting that similar powers have been invoked by Vice Presidents Thomas Jefferson and Richard Nixon. Kirk noted that during the 1960 presidential race between John Fitzgerald Kennedy and then-Vice President Richard Nixon, the state of Hawaii declared Nixon the victor and certified the results as such, prompting a challenge for recount by Kennedy.

Though Kennedy eventually won the recount, the state of Hawaii had already selected a slate of Republican electors, who sent their results to the Congress. Despite this, Nixon opted to use his plenary power in the Senate to reject the Republican election certificate and accept the Democrat certificate, in effect handing the state to his opponent.

Kirk stated that Nixon’s decision in 1960, despite angering legal scholars, ultimately proves that “the President of the Senate can do whatever he wants” and “there’s really no check and balance against Mike Pence on January 6.”

A similar precedent was also set in the election of 1800, Kirk noted, as presidential candidate Thomas Jefferson was currently the Vice President during a heavily contested election in the state of Georgia.

“Thomas Jefferson decided to put Georgia in his category despite the controversy, and Thomas Jefferson ended up becoming our third President,” Kirk said.

“So, Pence has what is called a ‘plenary power,’ which is a fancy legal way to say ‘absolute,'” Kirk continued, adding, “there’s precedent, there’s constitutional authority, Mike Pence’s power on January 6 will be plenary and unappealable. As President of the Senate, every objection comes directly to him, and he can rule any objection as out of order, accepted, denied, [or say] you get more...

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1 posted on 01/04/2021 6:26:57 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Better be praying ALL out for God’s servant, VP Michael Pence.....


2 posted on 01/04/2021 6:31:27 PM PST by princess leah (Princess Leah)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The only entity with plenary power in this whole affair seems to be the media. They have picked their President - and the GOP dares not object.


3 posted on 01/04/2021 6:35:46 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Kinda like chess pieces. The Queen having more abilities.


4 posted on 01/04/2021 6:40:18 PM PST by Daniel Ramsey
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Pence will either be one of the great American heroes of all time, or a spineless coward that serves the deep state.

We’ll all know in two days.


5 posted on 01/04/2021 6:42:09 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Could it be overruled by Dems + 2 RINOs ?


6 posted on 01/04/2021 6:42:10 PM PST by tarpit
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Stuff and nonsense !

The man is just VP, not dictator.


7 posted on 01/04/2021 6:48:16 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I don’t believe that the presiding officer of the Senate has the super powers claimed by many. I will listen though as this chugs along.


8 posted on 01/04/2021 6:51:37 PM PST by jimfree (My 20 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quiality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I posted the case of 1872 regarding Arkansas and Louisiana yesterday


9 posted on 01/04/2021 7:00:41 PM PST by BigEdLB (All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others-George Orwell)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

> Nixon opted to use his plenary power in the Senate to reject the Republican election certificate and accept the Democrat certificate <

The author makes it sound like Nixon had the power to accept or reject election certificates. Nixon only accepted the Democrat certificate because there were NO OBJECTIONS to that move.

Funny how the author omitted that key fact.


10 posted on 01/04/2021 7:00:49 PM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No, he doesn’t.

Congress does.


11 posted on 01/04/2021 7:04:36 PM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Camela Harris doesn’t have this power, nor does Mike Pence.

Nixon merely corrected things based on a normal recount.


12 posted on 01/04/2021 7:16:19 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Georgia in particular has been egregious and must decertify immediately...


13 posted on 01/04/2021 7:22:24 PM PST by cherry (TRUMP WON!)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

And there are NO certified alternate slated.

So it will be over quick.


14 posted on 01/04/2021 7:28:06 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

And there are NO certified alternate slated.

So it will be over quick.


15 posted on 01/04/2021 7:28:14 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad; Chode; Lockbox; carriage_hill; tubebender; SkyDancer; Salamander; OldMissileer; ...

What time does THIS part of the Rodeo begin ? Anybody ?


16 posted on 01/04/2021 8:32:56 PM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Mike Pence has never colored outside the establishment lines in his life.


17 posted on 01/05/2021 7:30:21 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: tarpit
Could it be overruled by Dems + 2 RINOs ?

There are more than 100 GOP "no" votes in the House and at least 30 GOP "noes" in the Senate.

"2 RINOs" could defeat this, yes, but getting rid of Trump is a mainstream GOP objective.

18 posted on 01/05/2021 7:34:32 AM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: cherry
Georgia ... must decertify immediately..

There is zero chance of that happening.

19 posted on 01/05/2021 7:36:24 AM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Other than Trump, I look at elected officials as actors, bad actors in a Kabuki theater or a bad comedy or a tragic adventure movie.

They aren't that bright, they really don't work for the voters, and they are drunk on power and attention.

Once in a great while a true statesman comes along and changes history, like Trump. But most don't have the courage to do the right thing and change history for the better.

20 posted on 01/05/2021 7:37:37 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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