‘I just want to find 11,780 votes’: In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia secretary of state to recalculate the vote in his favor

WAPO ^ | 1/3/2021 | Amy Gardner

[bitt]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions. The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.” Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

Trump dismissed their arguments. “The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry,” he said. “And there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.” Raffensperger responded: “Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong.”

At another point, Trump said: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.” The rambling and at times incoherent conversation offered a remarkable glimpse of how consumed and desperate the president remains about his loss, unwilling or unable to let the matter go and still believing he can reverse the results in enough battleground states to remain in office. “There’s no way I lost Georgia,” Trump said, a phrase he repeated again and again on the call. “There’s no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes.”

[Eagles6]

Yeah, I saw it.

Hey Brad, here's your evidence!

[teofila]

I’m guessing the Sos Raffensberg released the call.....

[Baladas]

LOL, maybe the wife did

[Spacetrucker]

Reagan, for whatever faults he may have had (We are ALL fallen short in the eyes of God) was a truly diplomatic type of leader and will forever be the inspiration for my military service.

[Qilin]

> Unanswered questions are did the poll workers leave on their own, or were they told to leave?

The GA SoS says that counting had stopped and workers were packing things up thinking that were finished for the night. Given this, it is seems almost certain that the intention to stop counting was voiced to observers (it would be strange otherwise), but I don’t think there is any evidence that anybody forced observers out (or had the ability to do so), and locked the doors behind them. The observers left on their own. Apparently there was news media nearby, if not inside the building, that was aware that counting had resumed (indeed, Trump’s lawyer’s have stated that this is how the Republican observers learned that counting had resumed), so it doesn’t seem like the workers inside State Farm were trying all that hard to be covert in their activities.

> Why were the boxes stored under the table? Is that normal procedure? Why did they want to hustle with those particular ballots?

What the GA SoS says (and this is entirely consistent with that I’ve gleaned from careful viewing of various pieces of the security footage available on the internet) is that around 10pm EST the ballots that had already been removed from their envelopes but not yet counted were placed into ballot crates (not suitcases or whatever) in front of the infamous table and then stored under that table — all this occurred while media, state monitors, and observers were present. Given that these ballots had already been removed from envelopes, but not yet counted, it seem entirely natural that these would be the first to be tabulated (rather than going to other ballots that were still in envelopes.)

> There are probably many unanswered questions about that situation.

Agreed. I wish someone would release the entire security footage. I think that would clear up a lot about what happened at State Farm Arena.

[Cronos]

I know folks who voted Republican down the line except for the presidency

[Lakeshark]

Yes, I did. I admit that looks suspicious

But like a good quisling, you let them explain away the dozens of ways they did this.

The Navarro Report is pretty convincing.

So go ahead, try to tell us all again they didn't mysteriously stop counting in these democrat controlled big cities, that all mysteriously come up with statistical ballot drops that are eye-droppingly impossible to happen. And that happens to be the difference in the outcome of the election.

You can't explain this all, "it looks susicious", yet you buckle under like a good quisling and say, heh, I'm sure these honest democrats would never do such a thing.

Never......

And then we'll have the FBI and Robert Mueller give us a report.

[Qilin]

> The Navarro Report is pretty convincing.

That report is a joke. Check out my post here and see the security video for yourself (not just the snippet’s Giuliani, et. al. wants you to see):

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3921408/posts?q=1&;page=135#135

Trump’s legal team is flat out lying and withholding information to mislead the public, the GA Senate, and maybe even Trump himself. They knew back on Dec. 3rd where the ballots under that table came from and when they were placed there — they had the video and they had plenty of time to review it. During Traci Picks’ testimony on Dec. 3rd in front of the GA Judiciary Subcommittee they purposely navigated around the video to avoid the times when ballot crates were placed under the table (while media, state monitors, and observers were present) — watch the video at the link above and then compare with Traci Picks’ testimony just below (keep an eye on the timestamps) if you doubt it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keANzinHWUA

There is no way this wasn’t intentional. They knew exactly what they were doing. If Trump’s legal team is lying and intentionally spreading misinformation on this, their so called “smoking gun”, then I see reason to put any confidence whatsoever in anything else that they are peddling. The GA SoS story is consistent with the security video, but this nonsense from Trump’s legal team about mysterious suitcases of ballots being secreted under a table is just lies and misinformation. Sorry, I’m pretty certain you’re being taken for a ride.

[Lakeshark]

That report is a joke.

And then you ignore it, and go back to being your quisling self.

Here is the report, go ahead, take it apart. Please show us all how this kind of thing NEVER happened, and all these honest democrats are, well, you know, not really liars who took dozens of ways to steal an election as described in the report, and added them all together. Good luck, I'll check wih you in the morning, and I'll bet you have nothing.

https://www.thethinkingconservative.com/the-navarro-report-the-immaculate-deception/

[Qilin]

I don’t need to take it apart. Trump’s lawyers are flat out lying about what happened at State Farm Arena — their “smoking gun”, so everything they say is suspect. People who have truth on their side do not act like this. Period.

Did you have a look at the links I provided? Just watch the security video and see how that comports with the narrative that Trump’s legal team has been peddling. At the following link

https://securevotega.com/factcheck/

Go to the bottom row of videos, second from the left. Look at the following times

11:05 (10:06PM EST),
11:02 (10:06PM EST),
20:17 (10:16PM EST),
33:44 (10:29PM EST),
34:27 (10:30PM EST)

These are the times when the ballot crates were moved under the table while media, state monitors, and election observers were present. Even President Trump in his phone call with Raffspereger is still citing the “mystery” of the ballots under the table. Sad to say, but he doesn’t know what going on. His lawyers do, however, because they have watched the entire video (they’ve had it for a month.) There is no mystery about these ballots crates. They were filled with ballots from the desks and then placed under the table while media, monitors and observers were present. You can see it with your own eyes. Anyone who is claiming otherwise is either ignorant or lying. Trump’s legal team knows this, but they purposefully excluded those parts of the video in their presentation in front of the GA Judiciary Subcommittee in order to mislead the public and GA state senators. Again, this is not the way people who have truth on their side behave.

[Trailerpark Badass]

You are a credulous moron, and you completely ignore the history of GA democrats working to make voter fraud easier by keeping corrupt voting rolls, and resisting efforts to increase the security of the vote.

All while perpetuating the slander that racist whites in GA actively engage in efforts to “suppress” the vote of blacks, without a single credible example of such in at least the 42 years I have lived here. Gullible fools from Texas need to stay out of this one.

[Qilin]

Sorry, nothing justifies Trump’s legal team lying to the America public, the GA state senate, and maybe Trump himself about what occurred at State Farm Arena. Did you watch the security cam video at the link I provided in my previous post? People who have truth on their side don’t need to misrepresent and lie in this way. So far the info coming out of the GA SoS seems to comport quite well with the security video, while the security video totally destroy Giuliani’s “smoking gun” of the mysterious “suitcases of ballots” story, which even a day or two ago President Trump himself was still citing as evidence of fraud on the call with Rafffsperger. Someone needs to have a balls to speak honestly with PJDT because it appears that he’s surrounded by a bunch of sycophants who will tell him anything they think he wants to hear in order to ingratiate themselves to him. This is ridiculous and I can completely understand why Sterling was so pissed off today during the press conference.

[Trailerpark Badass]

Unless you believe the Democrats in Fulton County committed no voter fraud, Trump still has the “truth on his side.” And if you believe that, you need to stay in your lane and stay out of GA politics. If you find yourself sympathizing with a weasel like Gabe Sterling, you need to reassess some of your most fundamental life choices.

[Qilin]

I don’t know about Gabe Sterling other than the fact that what he said today at the press conference comports with the security video footage State Farm Arena, while what Giuliani and the rest of the Trump legal team has been peddling to the public and the GA state senate in regards to State Farm Area and the mystery “suitcases” of ballots under the table is completely destroyed by the security video. Do you think this sort of duplicity should be overlooked just because the Democrats are crooked? Why does Trump’s team need to lie to the public and the GA state senate about their “smoking gun” evidence if they have clear evidence of fraud?

[StAnDeliver]

"I don’t know about Gabe Sterling other than the fact that what he said today at the press conference comports with the security video footage State Farm Arena"

Of course you don't know about Gabe Sterling, because you don't know anything, because you're trolling.

You're a troll.

I want you to see what this equally worthless pos wrote nearly 3 weeks ago.

@GabrielSterling · Dec 4
Replying to @AngelikaForGA
"To be fair we have found potential illegal voting...but not enough to affect the outcome. But yes, we have found no widespread, organized fraud."

Serling wrote this the DAY AFTER IA-2 Democrat loser Rita Hart filed to take her 6-vote loss to the Democrat House. What do you think is going to happen? How many votes in a "not affect the outcome"? 6? 16,000? 60,000?

This guy is Raffenshyster's Mirrion-Dorrah Man for making Georgia elections safe and fair. But unlike you, at least Gabe admits there was fraud in Georgia LOL.

Now get lost, loser.

[Lakeshark]

I don’t need to take it apart.

Quisling that you are, of course you won't because you can't. You'd rather be content with the narrative of the suitcases, and that according to those totally honest democrats who would never cheat or lie........

[Qilin]

> Quisling that you are, of course you won’t because you can’t.

I have a job and a family. I have focused on the “suitcases” of ballots because I have limited time and because it was called the “smoking gun” piece of evidence by Giuliani, et. al. I don’t have time to address all the stuff they’re putting out there. I’m just stating (and backing up with facts) that Trump’s team is misleading people on what they themselves called a “smoking gun.” Now if you think they’re only misleading people, the GA state senate, etc. on this matter and all the other stuff they putting out is truthful then that’s certainly your prerogative. For me, that position seems pretty untenable.

> and that according to those totally honest democrats who would never cheat or lie........

I’ve never said that. All I’m saying is that Trump’s legal team is lying about the mysterious “suitcases of ballots” under the table at State Farm Arena. It does not logically follow from this position that therefore all Democrats are “totally honest” and “would never cheat or lie.” Do I really need to say this? It is possible Trump’s team is lying and that there was some fraud. But still, doesn’t it make you wonder just a why Trump’s legal team apparently felt the need to mislead the American public and the GA State Senate about what occurred at State Farm Arena if their evidence of fraud was so overwhelming? It doesn’t pass the smell test for me, but to each his own.

[StAnDeliver]

"some fraud."

How much in a "some".

Are you sure you're not Gabe Sterling?

[StAnDeliver]

Hey, just a reminder, Chinacorn, this is the thread where I broke you, and if you come back here under a different name (again), I will find you (again). Simple as that.