Posted on 12/30/2020 6:44:45 AM PST by SeekAndFind
When Congressman Louie Gohmert filed a lawsuit against Vice President Mike Pence to compel him to accept the alternate electors from contested states on January 6th, I did what I often lambaste the left for doing. I didn’t read the lawsuit and hoped for the best. It’s not that I didn’t think it was worthwhile, but I figured any important details about it would come out shortly after the suit was filed.
The important detail didn’t emerge until last night, and it’s exactly what I feared the most. Apparently, attorneys for the Vice President questioned Pence’s ability to object to contested electors, prompting the filing of the suit. Deep down, I figured that was likely the case but didn’t want to face it. I wanted to believe Pence is an honorable, faith-driven, Constitution-defending man who would do the right thing when his time came. It appears I was wrong. According to Newsmax:
Before suing, Gohmert’s lawyer outlined his legal arguments in an email to the Office of the Counsel of the Vice President and eventually held a meeting by phone with Pence’s lawyers, according to the Tuesday filing.
“In the teleconference, plaintiffs’ counsel made a meaningful attempt to resolve the underlying legal issues by agreement, including advising the Vice President’s counsel that plaintiffs intended to seek immediate injunctive relief in the event the parties did not agree,” Gohmert said. “Those discussions were not successful in reaching an agreement and this lawsuit was filed.”
Gohmert also said that he failed to convince Pence’s lawyers to expedite the lawsuit by allowing the congressman to formally deliver the lawsuit by email once it was filed in court.
Do not be fooled by submission to a legal interpretation. If Mike Pence wanted to fight the coup and fulfill his oath to defend the Constitution, he would be aggressively finding ways to take the necessary actions lawfully. Instead, he and his attorneys are deflecting, hiding behind one very dubious legal interpretation that goes squarely against precedent as well as common sense. As I noted on Twitter, anyone in government who is not actively fighting against the coup is no better than the perpetrators themselves.
Is there a difference between those directly involved in the coup and lawmakers who are not actively fighting it?
No.
— JD Rucker (@JDRucker) December 30, 2020
This could be a misunderstanding. I’m not hopeful that it is, so until Pence comes out officially one way or another, we have to go with what we know. His attorneys forced Gohmert to file a lawsuit in order to demonstrate the President of the Senate has the power to reject fraudulent electors. Unless these attorneys were acting against Pence’s wishes or this is some sort of 8-D chess move, we should go forward assuming Pence will do nothing on January 6th. And that makes him part of the coup.
That also means we’re still in the same position I’ve been preaching about on the NOQ Report for weeks. We need the MOAB, the Mother Of All Bombshells, to drop. And if it does, we need to acknowledge that it was by the will of God that it happened. Countless patriots have fought to expose the coup. We’ve had over a thousand sworn affidavits detailing voter fraud. We’ve had images and videos demonstrating how it happened. We’ve had statistical analyses ad nauseam. None of it seems to be making a dent. The force field around the collective consciousness of the nation has kept the same fraudulent results intact in the eyes of both the ignorant and those in denial.
And through it all, I remain quite confident President Trump will prevail in the end. We have the truth on our side, and that’s a powerful thing. Our Father hates lies and liars, which is why I believe He will act on our behalf. I know He can. I do not know if He will. Nobody does. This is why it is imperative that we pray daily for the truth to correct this circumstance. Pray multiple times per day. Pray constantly if you can. But one thing must be said. If His will is that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are to lead this nation, then we must not question it. NO, that does not mean we should not oppose it or that we stop fighting the good fight. But only God knows His plan and we must not feel betrayed just because our limited perceptions of the situation make us believe all is terrible.
Lest we forget, a majority of conservatives fought long and hard to get Mitt Romney elected over Barack Obama in 2012. Many prayed that it would happen. And if our will had been done instead of God’s will, then Romney would have squarely planted the GOP in his lukewarm, milquetoast brand of Republicanism for one or two terms and set that course for the foreseeable future. Meanwhile, Donald Trump would never have run for office. We need to remember that our Lord works in mysterious ways… at least to us. From His perspective, it all makes sense.
If he's seen as betraying or not standing with Trump, his campaign will be "odds-on" DOA against those of Santorum or one of the Trump kids.
“”This isn’t about Pence not supporting the President - it’s about Pence following the Constitution. And if anyone thinks differently, would you have been comfortable with AlGore having unilateral power to change electoral college votes that he or Clinton didn’t agree with?””
Are you on the right site? Common sense is not allowed here.
The urge to follow the first NEGATIVE poster over the cliff gets stronger here every day!
You are incorrect. There are mountains of evidence for everything from massive fraud in mail out voting, ballot box stuffing (with video camera records), actual forging of ballots, the various Dominion scams including rejecting 60-70% of ballots for reading errors and sending the ballots off site for “adjudication” and setting pre determined ratios of votes in favor of Biden, the impossible vote spikes and the list goes on and on.
There is more evidence than can be processed in a timely fashion and the players are stonewalling any forensic audit.
The evidence that needs to be produced is the cyber evidence on Dominion and the evidence of who conspired to execute this plan and why they did it.
Search Bush funeral envelopes. Very curious videos.
Julian Assange warned about Pence in a twitter when the coup meeting took place (re 25th Amendment) He is (or was) the keeper of all insider goop.
“”The notion that Mike Pence is “part of the coup” is grossly stupid, Alex Jones-breathless-hyper-conspiratorial type of stuff that I THOUGHT wouldn’t be tolerated here.
Have a nice thread.””
FINALLY - Someone who can read and do their own thinking. Some people here need to find something else to do...and stop following the first poster over the cliff...
Thanks.....
You’d all be better off taking one thing at a time. Do what NEEDS to be done now and worry about Harris at some later date. Where is the sense in predicting what may happen in the future?
On the other hand, thinking about a Republican being elected in 2024 is pretty funny! 2020 was fraudulent and everyone knows it and it will happen here in GA next week and again in all other elections to come until people figure out HOW we got taken in so badly!! I don’t think anyone has a grip on that.
None of these thoughts are pleasant, I admit!
This is libelous. Outrageous.
“”I didn’t leave CA less than 10 years to move to yet another Democratic cesspool state.””
We left 14 years ago. I guess we disprove the contention here that every time people move out of CA, they take their “liberal” viewpoints with them and change the color of the state they move to. Are we guilty of that? Perhaps without realizing it? HA! Nope - still conservative in this household. Not my fault the state changed after we got here. That must mean that a LOT OF CA LIBERALS moved here. Yeah, that’s it!
The problem is, if I did, I would be kicked off for violating FR rules.
It comes down to this:
Are you willing to let your freedoms be taken from you....freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly?
It’ll happen.
Are you willing to give up your weapons?
It’ll happen.
Are you willing to be forced into a ‘re-education camp’ along with your family because of your beliefs?
Once Harris takes over (and you know she will), it’ll happen, and faster than you’d believe.
YES, this is what I believe WILL happen.
We either be ‘good little citizens’ and go marching off to enslavement and death or we fight back NOW with everything we have. We won’t get another chance...they will make sure of it.
Mike Pence is and always has been an establishment guy. He has never colored outside the establishment lines and he never will. I’m sure Trump knows this.
That is pure fantasy, FRiend.
Harris may indeed take over, but the US Constitution is not suspended just because a black woman is in charge.
At best, Democrat majorities in Congress are razor thin and only a tiny loss of "party discipline" will block their most radical agenda items.
It is truly a crying shame if Democrats were able to steal the reelection of the most popular Republican president, arguably, ever.
It's a lesson hopefully Republicans will never forget and in time render impossible to repeat.
It is not justification for destroying our constitutional Free Republic.
Do not fall for this divide and conquer strategy.
What better way to undermine President Trump than to suggest his VP has a knife ready for his back?
The left has truly, totally, and successfully Alinsky-ed President Trump...in this matter the isolating and polarizing aspect. Successful ONLY if people gobble it up.
I believe VP Pence truly believes in God, and will act accordingly in terms of right and wrong.
Donald trump is alone in DC.
On January 6th, the Congressional proceedings NEED to open with objections from the House and Senate to ANY acceptance of electors from states utilizing the Dominion voting systems. Dominion voting systems are a national security threat to the USA
This forces the debate over their integrity to the floor of the Congress and instantly defines the traitors and the patriots in the room
its overwhelming....
I am not saying that the Constitution will be destroyed because a black woman is President. Heck, I know of a couple of Black women who I would LOVE to be President.
I’m saying that the Constitution will be destroyed because Harris is a Communist. She’s kept (mostly) quiet about it, but that’s her belief. She wants all of us, those who love freedom, to be silenced, and preferably destroyed.
And the Republicans can learn all they want about how not to let it happen again, but it will be to no avail. Once the Dems take the reins, they will ensure that NO ONE will succeed in challenging them again...EVER.
Unless the Lord G-d pulls out a Red Sea-class miracle, now or in the future, that’s it.
Communist or not, Democrat majorities in Congress are razor thin and any blatant aggression against the US Constitution will be met with stiff resistance in Congress & the courts.
Democrat margins are so thin, as of today, it's not even certain who will be the next House speaker.
I'm only saying: don't assume the very worst when better outcomes are more than likely.
hoagy62: "And the Republicans can learn all they want about how not to let it happen again, but it will be to no avail.
Once the Dems take the reins, they will ensure that NO ONE will succeed in challenging them again...EVER."
Sure... I "get" that, but this battle is far from over, we are far from defeated yet, and we are not running from the field screaming "all is lost, we're doomed, flee for your lives!"
That might happen someday, but we are far, far from it today.
hoagy62: "Unless the Lord G-d pulls out a Red Sea-class miracle, now or in the future, that’s it."
As the USA turns ourselves into Sodom & Gomorrah, we are reminded of Abraham's negotiations with God regarding how many good people he needed to find there for God to save those cities from destruction.
It wasn't a lot, God didn't even require a majority to be good people, just a few good men was all God needed to spare the rest.
So what do you think?
Do we still have a few good Americans for whose sake God would spare the rest from His righteous anger?
NSA sorry nitpicking. I guess perfect people like you never have typos
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