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Unfortunately, Mike Pence is part of the coup. Keep praying for the MOAB. We want to believe that he'll do the right thing, but every indicator tells us he won't.
NOQ Report ^ | 12/30/2020 | JD Rucker

Posted on 12/30/2020 6:44:45 AM PST by SeekAndFind

When Congressman Louie Gohmert filed a lawsuit against Vice President Mike Pence to compel him to accept the alternate electors from contested states on January 6th, I did what I often lambaste the left for doing. I didn’t read the lawsuit and hoped for the best. It’s not that I didn’t think it was worthwhile, but I figured any important details about it would come out shortly after the suit was filed.

The important detail didn’t emerge until last night, and it’s exactly what I feared the most. Apparently, attorneys for the Vice President questioned Pence’s ability to object to contested electors, prompting the filing of the suit. Deep down, I figured that was likely the case but didn’t want to face it. I wanted to believe Pence is an honorable, faith-driven, Constitution-defending man who would do the right thing when his time came. It appears I was wrong. According to Newsmax:


Before suing, Gohmert’s lawyer outlined his legal arguments in an email to the Office of the Counsel of the Vice President and eventually held a meeting by phone with Pence’s lawyers, according to the Tuesday filing.

“In the teleconference, plaintiffs’ counsel made a meaningful attempt to resolve the underlying legal issues by agreement, including advising the Vice President’s counsel that plaintiffs intended to seek immediate injunctive relief in the event the parties did not agree,” Gohmert said. “Those discussions were not successful in reaching an agreement and this lawsuit was filed.”

Gohmert also said that he failed to convince Pence’s lawyers to expedite the lawsuit by allowing the congressman to formally deliver the lawsuit by email once it was filed in court.


Do not be fooled by submission to a legal interpretation. If Mike Pence wanted to fight the coup and fulfill his oath to defend the Constitution, he would be aggressively finding ways to take the necessary actions lawfully. Instead, he and his attorneys are deflecting, hiding behind one very dubious legal interpretation that goes squarely against precedent as well as common sense. As I noted on Twitter, anyone in government who is not actively fighting against the coup is no better than the perpetrators themselves.

Is there a difference between those directly involved in the coup and lawmakers who are not actively fighting it?

No.

— JD Rucker (@JDRucker) December 30, 2020

This could be a misunderstanding. I’m not hopeful that it is, so until Pence comes out officially one way or another, we have to go with what we know. His attorneys forced Gohmert to file a lawsuit in order to demonstrate the President of the Senate has the power to reject fraudulent electors. Unless these attorneys were acting against Pence’s wishes or this is some sort of 8-D chess move, we should go forward assuming Pence will do nothing on January 6th. And that makes him part of the coup.

That also means we’re still in the same position I’ve been preaching about on the NOQ Report for weeks. We need the MOAB, the Mother Of All Bombshells, to drop. And if it does, we need to acknowledge that it was by the will of God that it happened. Countless patriots have fought to expose the coup. We’ve had over a thousand sworn affidavits detailing voter fraud. We’ve had images and videos demonstrating how it happened. We’ve had statistical analyses ad nauseam. None of it seems to be making a dent. The force field around the collective consciousness of the nation has kept the same fraudulent results intact in the eyes of both the ignorant and those in denial.

And through it all, I remain quite confident President Trump will prevail in the end. We have the truth on our side, and that’s a powerful thing. Our Father hates lies and liars, which is why I believe He will act on our behalf. I know He can. I do not know if He will. Nobody does. This is why it is imperative that we pray daily for the truth to correct this circumstance. Pray multiple times per day. Pray constantly if you can. But one thing must be said. If His will is that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are to lead this nation, then we must not question it. NO, that does not mean we should not oppose it or that we stop fighting the good fight. But only God knows His plan and we must not feel betrayed just because our limited perceptions of the situation make us believe all is terrible.

Lest we forget, a majority of conservatives fought long and hard to get Mitt Romney elected over Barack Obama in 2012. Many prayed that it would happen. And if our will had been done instead of God’s will, then Romney would have squarely planted the GOP in his lukewarm, milquetoast brand of Republicanism for one or two terms and set that course for the foreseeable future. Meanwhile, Donald Trump would never have run for office. We need to remember that our Lord works in mysterious ways… at least to us. From His perspective, it all makes sense.




TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: coup; electoralcollege; mikepence; noshitsherlock; notacoup; qtards; realitysettingin; voterfraud
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To: Jim Noble

I’m with you.


41 posted on 12/30/2020 7:23:46 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind

“ Media gaslighting has convinced the other half, including Sen. McConnell and some other leading Republicans, that Biden was really elected”

You are being very generous to the GOP Biden supporters, which include AT LEAST 46 elected US Senators.

You don’t seriously believe they support Biden because the have been deceived by “media gaslighting”, do you?

They can all count votes like a pimp in a whorehouse can count money. They know EXACTLY what was done. They know how, why, and by whom.

And they are very pleased about it.


42 posted on 12/30/2020 7:25:35 AM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: newzjunkey
Pence is largely a figurehead in the electoral vote count. The state governments and state and federal courts have not challenged these certifications for Biden and so Pence cannot substitute his judgement or personal interest for theirs.

EXACTLY, and that's what the Constitution and US Election Code both clearly outline for anyone who wants to take the time to read the relevant texts. But the blogs sure are doing a great job driving clicks (and sadly, getting people's hopes up unrealistically) with all this supposition about things that are not possible.

This isn't about Pence not supporting the President - it's about Pence following the Constitution. And if anyone thinks differently, would you have been comfortable with AlGore having unilateral power to change electoral college votes that he or Clinton didn't agree with?

43 posted on 12/30/2020 7:26:52 AM PST by jstolzen
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Pence will never be the 2024 nominee... take that to the bank and deposit it!


44 posted on 12/30/2020 7:28:13 AM PST by neverbluffer
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To: hoagy62

“ actually going out with weapons in hand, locked and loaded, and taking back the country”

Meaning what? Tell me three things men with weapons in their hands could do that would result in “taking back the country”.

No generalizations.


45 posted on 12/30/2020 7:28:13 AM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: SeekAndFind
The notion that Mike Pence is "part of the coup" is grossly stupid, Alex Jones-breathless-hyper-conspiratorial type of stuff that I THOUGHT wouldn't be tolerated here.

Have a nice thread.

46 posted on 12/30/2020 7:28:42 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (NOT tired of winning.)
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To: SeekAndFind

it was brought up on a Turley video that on Jan. 6 Pence would be in a position to reject slates based on the fact of pending litigation tying his hands. He could be innocent & helpless in this scenario. If there are 2 lawsuits one via Amistad Project & one by Goehmert it could be a case of the more the merrier to drive in this stake and flip it to the house.
I’m no expert just remembered this point by Turley


47 posted on 12/30/2020 7:30:00 AM PST by magna carta (TX all you have to do is send an email to principal with a witness included on the communication.)
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To: All

if the majority of the people are deep state, is it a deep state anymore? seems like we are adding more people to that group daily.


48 posted on 12/30/2020 7:31:26 AM PST by VAFreedom (Wuhan Pneumonia-Made by CCP, Copyright Xi Jingping)
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To: LouAvul

Best WW2 movie : ‘From Here to Eternity’ - runner up ‘The Victors’
Best WW2 novel - ‘The Naked and the Dead’
Most overrated WW2 movie - ‘Patton’

Maybe this belongs on another thread - let’s start one?


49 posted on 12/30/2020 7:35:42 AM PST by Seajay (Ordem e Progresso)
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To: rdcbn1

“It really is time for President Trump to release whatever evidence he has to the public.”

Bring it on... I agree. Expose the corruption.


50 posted on 12/30/2020 7:38:05 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: BureaucratusMaximus

Let’s look at the facts. Not just call people names.

A few days ago I would have agreed with you. The wind appears to be changing directions.

Let’s gather the facts.


51 posted on 12/30/2020 7:39:46 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: SeekAndFind

“”His attorneys forced Gohmert to file a lawsuit in order to demonstrate the President of the Senate has the power to reject fraudulent electors.””

None of this makes any more sense than the first time the story was posted yesterday or the day before. WHY is wanting the VP to have the power to reject fraudulent electors a bad thing?

Let one person come out against the VP and everyone here jumps on the pile to condemn him. The inability to make judgements made on one’s own understanding is really getting old. Poster #1 - he’s a traitor - all the way through to “pick a number”...bad, bad, bad VP..

If someone can explain WHY the lawsuit is a bad thing, I’ll be grateful...


52 posted on 12/30/2020 7:40:16 AM PST by Thank You Rush ( )
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To: Thank You Rush

If someone can explain WHY the lawsuit is a bad thing, I’ll be grateful...

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Not a lawyer and never played one on TV, but the situation reads to me like a scripted play to push awareness of the actual facts into public awareness.


53 posted on 12/30/2020 7:43:11 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: redfreedom

“”I’ve noticed a very strong propensity here at FR to be very negative in just about all respects regarding the election. The defeatism, the Debbie Downers, the posting of negative threads and the falling for negative propaganda as though it were the gospel.
We need to wait this out before we judge Pence.””

You’re talking to the wrong people - it’s not in their nature to wait for anything...one person says someone is evil, everyone else thereafter falls into line - over the cliff!!

Count on it - never fails.


54 posted on 12/30/2020 7:45:11 AM PST by Thank You Rush ( )
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To: Thank You Rush

It’s like the calls for shopping boycotts.
Years ago I started tabulating all the places that you were “supposed” to boycott and you wound up with zero places other than maybe the Salvation Army thrift shop.


55 posted on 12/30/2020 7:47:10 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: rdcbn1

He has none. He looks dumb and needs to stop feeding the kooks


56 posted on 12/30/2020 7:47:18 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans ( )
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To: redfreedom
Always expect the worst. Then you will never be disappointed.

Personally, I will be using the 'Did you support President Trump?' test on every candidate in every election from now on.

57 posted on 12/30/2020 7:48:20 AM PST by Semper Vigilantis (FYI: People SUCCEED, States SECEDE.)
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To: Thank You Rush

RE: WHY is wanting the VP to have the power to reject fraudulent electors a bad thing?

Well, we need to get the chance to PROVE the extent of the fraud for one.

I we don’t want to set a precedent where a VP can simply declare fraud willy-nilly and simply pick and choose the result he wants. What if Kamala Harris became the Senate President and a Republican won in 2024? Do we want her with the power to choose the electors she wants simply because she did not like the results and simply called it fraudulent?


58 posted on 12/30/2020 7:48:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s a nice man.

Pero, que onda Guero? El no tiene HUEVOS GRANDES.

He is a Number Two guy. Not Presidential material.


59 posted on 12/30/2020 7:49:46 AM PST by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: neverbluffer

Especially if he is disloyal to President Trump and the truth!! I will die before I would vote for him if he cannot stand up to this blatant treason!!


60 posted on 12/30/2020 8:18:00 AM PST by Conservinator (The biggest problem we have in Washington DC is a shortage of rope!!!)
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