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Virginia removes Robert E. Lee statue from U.S. Capitol
WWBT ^ | 12/21/20 | Adrianna Hargrove

Posted on 12/21/2020 5:18:44 AM PST by Alter Kaker

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To: Triple

Wrong.

The legislation only requires them to be treated “the same as” U.S. armed forces veterans, it does not proclaim them U.S. armed forces veterans.

The head stones provided for Confederate veterans are not the same as the head stones provided to real U.S. armed forces veterans.


61 posted on 12/21/2020 10:19:23 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: Triple

Wrong.

The legislation only requires them to be treated “the same as” U.S. armed forces veterans, it does not proclaim them U.S. armed forces veterans.

The head stones provided for Confederate veterans are not the same as the head stones provided to real U.S. armed forces veterans.


62 posted on 12/21/2020 10:19:23 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: Alter Kaker

I’m curious under what authority they removed property that belongs to the federal government from a US government facility? If I want to trim the tree in my front yard I have to beg the indulgence of the government.


63 posted on 12/21/2020 10:54:04 AM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids

And then he went to war against the United States and attempted to destroy it.


64 posted on 12/21/2020 11:23:19 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: rockrr

The statues are owned by the states and selected and provided by the states.


65 posted on 12/21/2020 11:23:55 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Bull Snipe

Point Accepted / thanks

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN23X28B


66 posted on 12/21/2020 12:31:40 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Alter Kaker

They disgust me.
Lee,Calhoun,Davis,Jackson etal are all American heroes.
Trying to erase history is just sad.
Who’s next? Betty Crocker?


67 posted on 12/21/2020 2:27:46 PM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: Semper Vigilantis
Semper Vigilantis: "Congress was not allowing statehood to those who were not anti-slavery, thus stacking the deck against the south."

You're talking about "bleeding Kansas" where four different proposed constitutions were presented to Congress, including the pro-slavery Lecompton Constitution.
Until Southern secession in 1861, proposed anti-slavery Kansas constitutions were rejected by Southerners in Congress and the pro-slavery Lecompton constitution was rejected by Northern Republicans, even though supported by Democrat President Buchanan.

The fact is that the vast majority of Kansas citizens were anti-slavery, but Southern Democrats believed they had a right to make Kansas a slave-state.
Speaking of Congress' rejection of the pro-slavery Lecomption constitution:

Semper Vigilantis: "BTW - most of the north didn't give 2 craps about slavery, in fact they practiced it. "

No, the fact is that by the early 1800s every Northern state had begun to abolish slavery, and by 1860 there were only a handful of slaves remaining in New Jersey, none in other Northern states.
At the same time, populations of freed-blacks grew rapidly in most Northern states.

But until around 1858 most Northerners were Democrats, allied politically with Southern Democrats for the purpose of expanding slavery into US territories and (via SCOTUS's Dred Scott opinion) even into Northern states where slavery was considered illegal.

At least two major things had changed by 1860.
One was that SCOTUS Dred Scott ruling, which represented the peak of Southern slavery expansion politics making Northerners realize that slavery could well be reintroduced into their own states.
The second was the work of Fire Eaters in Southern states, splitting their previously majority Democrat party in half and convincing Southern leaders and voters that the election of a "Black Republican" President like Lincoln was reason enough for secession.

And so secession came, soon followed by Civil War.

Semper Vigilantis: "When I up to the NE from TX for work I was shocked at the racism and the way black people were treated and talked about.
I had to go to 'diversity training' because of my accent, but those same people dropped the "n word" like it was nothing. "

I am long since retired, but I've never seen anything remotely resembling your experiences since... well, the 1960s.
I have heard that African Americans themselves sometimes use the "n-word" to each other as a term of endearment, but I've not heard it used anywhere -- North, South, East or West -- since I was a boy.

I suspect there's some politically inspired exaggeration going on here.

Semper Vigilantis: "THERE'S your "crock of Democrat Adam Schiff!"."

Way, way too much of that going around, FRiend.

68 posted on 12/22/2020 3:52:01 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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To: CodeToad; Semper Vigilantis
CodeToad to Semper Vigilantis: "Agreed. The most racist people are yankees."

And your evidence for this is what, exactly?

69 posted on 12/22/2020 3:54:38 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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To: GOPJ
Maybe someday in Florida we’ll remove every statue connected to a democrat... lawful is fine.

Florida's statues are John Gorrie, who was not a politician, and Edmund Kirby Smith, who is already slated to be replaced by Mary McCloud Bethune, also not a politician.

70 posted on 12/22/2020 4:08:43 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: BroJoeK

“And your evidence for this is what, exactly?”

Keep going. You’ll prove my point.


71 posted on 12/22/2020 5:27:28 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: CodeToad
CodeToad: "Keep going. You’ll prove my point."

In other words, you have no evidence.

That's what I thought.

72 posted on 12/22/2020 5:38:21 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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To: BroJoeK

Keep going, Sunshine. Let that hate come through. You’ll show us.


73 posted on 12/22/2020 5:41:18 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: CodeToad
"Keep going, Sunshine. Let that hate come through. You’ll show us."

No hate here, FRiend, only love for the truth.

74 posted on 12/22/2020 9:34:23 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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To: DoodleDawg
From the civil war on - up until the 60's - EVERY statue in the South was of a Democrat... Bull Conner was a democrat, Robert Byrd (D) (who has hundreds of statues, bridges, roads etc also a KKK member ). Fritz Hollings (D) Gov. of South Carolina who put the confederate battle flag on the State flag has many statues... I lived in the Jim Crow South... all democrat... all puffed up jerks.
75 posted on 12/22/2020 9:37:35 AM PST by GOPJ (If China let go a virus that primarily killed gays, would Madison Ave. still up Chinese in TV ads? )
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