Posted on 12/08/2020 9:22:49 AM PST by karpov
Don’t be silly. That phase (phase 4) of the trials occurs “after market” - meaning they’ll wait until a large number of “volunteers” are vaccinated and then do the long term effect study on those guinea pigs. If it turns out there’s a problem it will be “oops, sorry our bad. Too bad for you we are exempt from liability. Try your luck with VAERS to see if your surviving family members will be consoled with a financial settlement that you most likely won’t get.
No. That’s very apples and chickens. The vaccine is to NOT get it. The survival rate is having already failed that step.
According to Florian Krammer, a vaccine scientist at Mount Sinai, you could do all of this at a cost of about $20 million to $30 million per vaccine and, ideally, would do so for between 50 and 100 different viruses — enough, he says, to functionally cover all the phylogenies that could give rise to pandemic strains in the future...
In a just-published paper in Cell, he suggests it isn’t just that Phase I clinical work and the larger, longer Phase II safety trials which could be done preemptively, entirely before the arrival of new pandemics. Some Phase III efficacy testing, he says, could be done then, as well — especially for existing rather than novel strains. “
If we do all that, he says, the entire timeline could be compressed to as few as three months...three months from the design of the Moderna vaccine was April 13. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/12/moderna-covid-19-vaccine-design.html
Sounds good, but (the point being) - I’m not interested in taking an experimental drug when the risks are so low to begin with.
Maybe they do and just go underground unreported. Where's Hillary.
No that wasn’t your point. Your point was comparing apples and chickens to deceive.
You forget that the vaccine GIVES IT to you.
I sure hope you’re kidding.
I fully agree. This article is crap.
Whatever. I’m not getting it, my trust level for government regulatory bureaucracies right now is at zero - and I’m entirely certain about THAT number.
HCQ/Zinc Sulfate or Ivermectin have both proven 99.3% effective if taken within 48hours of symptoms....
I don’t care if you get it or not. Just don’t play the “lies, damned lies and statistics” game. Your post was a flat out LIE by comparing unlike statistics as the same concept. I don’t give a crap what you do with your health, but when I catch someone lying I WILL point it out. DON’T LIE.
No national one. At least to Democrat Arizona legislators got it. But I see what you mean.
If we were actually at WAR with COVID, we would have mass-produced and applied this vaccine as soon as they finished the “safety” trial. We didn’t NEED TO KNOW IT WAS EFFECTIVE. If it was safe, and we were really in a crisis, we should have taken the chance, or at least allowed people to take the chance if they wanted.
Exactly
Remember how we dropped an atomic bomb in WW2? Way before we had finished testing it, or determined the side effects. IN fact, the 2nd bomb we dropped was much better than the first.
But it was a war, and in a war, you don’t wait for everything to be verified, you use what you got and take risks.
If COVID was really a crisis, we should have treated it that way. But instead, we decided that we should destroy people’s lives, and use normal processes to test our vaccines.
The testing processes for WARP SPEED have been far from normal!
But with all the anti-vaxxers and fearmongers out there, we need to test for safety and efficacy!!!
The vaccine is not the atom bomb, which was made to be lethal and destructive. The vaccine is meant to prevent a disease without causing massive side effects!!!
If we do all that, he says, the entire timeline could be compressed to as few as three months...three months from the design of the Moderna vaccine was April 13. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/12/moderna-covid-19-vaccine-design.html
If I am understanding this plan...
It would be to create vaccines worth potentially billions of dollars for viruses that are not yet a problem, in the chance that one day they might become a problem....Is that correct????
Thank goodness the world is comprised of exactly zero scientists who have a profit motive. That could really be dangerous if there were any.
What does "NOT get it" mean? Seems like such an imprecise term to use when you yourself are demanding such precision.
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