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No, The Georgia Vote-Counting Video Was Not ‘Debunked.’ Not Even Close
The Federalist ^ | December 7, 2020 | Mollie Hemmingway

Posted on 12/07/2020 7:42:53 AM PST by Kaslin

The Republican poll watchers’ story matches this election night reporting perfectly. And it wasn’t just ABC that reported counting was being delayed. Many media outlets reported on counting delays. See, for example, “Fulton County stopped counting absentee ballots for the night.”

Local NBC journalists on site that night independently confirmed “they were told counting was done for the night” and given no indication it would continue before the next morning. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution even reported of a “plan” to stop scanning ballots at the same time the poll watchers said things were shut down:A Big Tech-backed 'fact' 'checking' outfit claimed to debunk explosive evidence for Republicans' claims of significant election problems in Georgia. It didn't.


A Big Tech-backed “fact” “checking” outfit claimed to debunk explosive evidence in support of Republicans’ claims of significant election problems at a Thursday Georgia Senate hearing. It didn’t. Not even close.

Newly discovered security footage from Georgia’s State Farm Arena showed dozens of ballot counters, media, and Republican observers leaving en masse at the same time from the ballot-counting area for Fulton County. After they left, a small remnant of about four workers began pulling trunks containing thousands of ballots from underneath a table with a long tablecloth and running them through machines.

The footage supported claims from Republicans that they were told counting had stopped for the night, only to find out hours later that it had kept going on. You can and should watch the 12-minute portion of the testimony from Jacki Pick here.

U.S. elections

On Friday morning, a group called Lead Stories published a “hoax alert” falsely claiming to have debunked the security video. The Washington Post, Newsweek, and other outlets followed along, criticizing non-leftist journalists for giving the video traction.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020; electionfraud; electionintegrity; voterfraud
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1 posted on 12/07/2020 7:42:53 AM PST by Kaslin
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There is absolutely no way that staying behind and retrieving ballot boxes hidden under a table after everyone was sent home is normal or routine.


2 posted on 12/07/2020 7:47:55 AM PST by wny
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To: Kaslin

Where is the federal investigation?


3 posted on 12/07/2020 7:48:01 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Widespread fraud results in the DQing of the offending fraudsters. Biden should be DQed.)
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To: Kaslin

Lead Stories is bunk, they cannot debunk.


4 posted on 12/07/2020 7:48:02 AM PST by deks (No machines, no software, nothing that can be electronically manipulated -- paper ballots only)
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To: Kaslin

Looks like they circled back to Rule #4 of the 17 Rules for Truth Suppression.

4. Knock down straw men. Deal only with the weakest aspects of the weakest charges. Even better, create your own straw men. Make up wild rumors (or plant false stories) and give them lead play when you appear to debunk all the charges, real and fanciful alike.


5 posted on 12/07/2020 7:49:10 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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‪Question... If Dem governors can suspend the state’s citizens civil liberties under emergency orders because of the Virus, could the POTUS do the same and suspend due date of the selection and acceptance of Electors?‬


6 posted on 12/07/2020 7:49:16 AM PST by SMW
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Of course they can’t debunk that. There was no doubt what they were doing was illegal. Then the lady senator sitting on the panel that got so bent out of shape saying it was debunked really let me know they were busted. And she is in on it. Arrest these people and they will start talking.


7 posted on 12/07/2020 7:55:36 AM PST by glimmerman70
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To: Kaslin
Lead Stories claims it is funded by Facebook, Google, and ByteDance. The latter is the Beijing-based and China Communist Party-linked company known for TikTok. Facebook and Google have suppressed journalism deemed harmful to Trump’s 2020 election opponent Joe Biden. The Trump administration has said TikTok’s ties to the Chinese Communist government makes it a national security threat.
8 posted on 12/07/2020 7:55:41 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Kaslin

I think one of the best general points this article makes before going on to the details is that liberals call something a FACT CHECK when it’s really just a counterclaim.


9 posted on 12/07/2020 8:05:50 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Mollie is a gem for truth and the media are absolute liars.


10 posted on 12/07/2020 8:10:08 AM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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Mollie is a gem for truth and the media are absolute liars.

She has to be about the most hard-working journalist out there, to boot. She digs below the top layer every time. I wish our justice system had more tenacious people like her.

11 posted on 12/07/2020 8:14:15 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: Kaslin

All this evidence of vote fraud is going to go nowhere because the GOPe hates Trump as much as the DemoNazis. Then for the next 2 years they will beg for money to take back the House and maybe the Senate so they can reverse the damage the DemoNazis have done. Only they won’t because they will claim it’s because of Biden and after Biden it will be some other excuse.


12 posted on 12/07/2020 8:15:51 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (If the meanings in the Constitution can change, why did they bother writing it down?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

So, you think they’ll last the two years, huh?


13 posted on 12/07/2020 8:17:11 AM PST by MarDav
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Same reason feds don’t write traffic tickets. States run elections.


14 posted on 12/07/2020 8:18:23 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Kaslin
Mollie doesn't address this account of the story:

Georgia election officials show frame-by-frame what happened in Fulton surveillance video

By: Justin Gray, WSB-TV
Updated: December 4, 2020 - 8:23 PM

For the third time, counties across Georgia have certified votes from November’s presidential election.

The outcome is not expected to change, but legal challenges are still underway.

One involves a video from State Farm Arena that has since gone viral. President Trump’s lawyers and other supporters call it the smoking gun, proving election fraud.

Channel 2 investigative reporter Justin Gray spent the day with Georgia election officials, going through the video frame-by-frame to show everyone what really happened.

Gray looked not at just the short clip the Trump campaign shared, but the critical hours before and after that clip as well.

State election investigators have already spent hours analyzing the video showing what Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani said was suitcases being pulled from under a table.

They were, in fact, official, sealed ballot containers.

“We can show exactly when they were placed in there,” lead investigator Frances Watson said.

Watson said they weren’t mystery ballots that came from a mystery location.

Video taken hours before shows the table being brought into the room at 8:22 a.m. Nothing was underneath the table then.

At 10 p.m., with the room full of people, including official monitors and the media, video shows ballots that had already been opened but not counted placed in the boxes, sealed up and stored under the table.

The reason? Employees thought they were done for the night.

“They were closing things up and getting ready to leave,” Watson said.

Here’s where the confusion comes in:

Media and observers left as employees packed up. But Fulton’s election director called a supervisor at State Farm a few minutes later, telling them to keep counting after the Secretary of State’s office called and said they shouldn’t stop counting for the night so early.

After that call, employees pulled the containers of ballots back out and went back to work.

“No magically-appearing ballots,” Gabriel Sterling with the Secretary of State’s office said. “These were ballots that were processed in front of the monitors, processed in front of the monitors and placed there in front of the monitors.”

So what about the time gap between when the media and observers left and then the observers returned about an hour later? Employees scanned ballots.

“These are just typical everyday election workers are just doing their jobs,” Sterling said. “This is not some Ocean’s Eleven-level scheme being put together in the middle of the night.”

There was about an hour that workers scanned ballots before a state monitor arrived, but video shows those moments. The monitor then observed counting until they stopped for the night. The lead election investigator has looked at all that video and said that she saw no evidence of any wrongdoing.


15 posted on 12/07/2020 8:18:58 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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“The monitor only claims to have been present in the processing room from 11:52 p.m. on election night to 12:45 a.m., the following morning, or less than an hour. That means there were neither partisan monitors nor the state election board monitor for more than an hour after ballots began being scanned at 10:35 p.m.”


16 posted on 12/07/2020 8:19:03 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Kaslin

If it was debunked the three culprits would not be lawyering up.


17 posted on 12/07/2020 8:19:26 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: wny

“The monitor only claims to have been present in the processing room from 11:52 p.m. on election night to 12:45 a.m., the following morning, or less than an hour. That means there were neither partisan monitors nor the state election board monitor for more than an hour after ballots began being scanned at 10:35 p.m.”


Note that he completely missed the critical time when those ballots were assembled and brought over, and manipulated (rightly or wrongly), by more than a half hour. So by this time, there are just piles that the monitor has *no* idea how they got there or where they were from. So what, exactly, was he monitoring?


18 posted on 12/07/2020 8:21:48 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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...Note that he completely missed the critical time when those ballots were assembled and brought over, and manipulated (rightly or wrongly), by more than a half hour. So by this time, there are just piles that the monitor has *no* idea how they got there or where they were from. So what, exactly, was he monitoring?...

excellent point. in addition the election person himself appears to be biased..not neutral-


19 posted on 12/07/2020 8:27:05 AM PST by rolling_stone ( EAT )
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To: Kaslin

Local ***NBC journalists*** on site that night independently confirmed “they were told counting was done for the night.

Did he get fired if so now he will have to look for work at a honest news outlet.


20 posted on 12/07/2020 8:32:09 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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