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What's China planning? Worrying satellite images expose huge military moves
https://www.express.co.uk ^ | Nov 25, 2020 | By CIARAN MCGRATH

Posted on 11/25/2020 11:19:49 AM PST by RomanSoldier19

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To: 2big2fail

[But anyway, I would not want to risk an all-out nuclear war for the sake of preserving _____. ]


This reasoning could apply to any country in the world, including the continental US. Ultimately, unless one party is certain that losing a conventional war means physical extermination, it will not initiate* a nuclear confrontation. And any conflict will be restricted to a strictly defined conflict zone, much like Korea, Vietnam and the Falklands. The outsized Chinese role in Korea and Vietnam meant that the best way to win those wars quickly was an all-out nuclear attack on China. Yet the US desisted from even bombing China.

* Leaving aside humanitarian considerations, from a cost-benefit standpoint, it makes sense to wipe out a nuclear-armed adversary with your arsenal if you are certain that no nuclear retaliation or retaliatory capability will be forthcoming. The problem is the US nuclear triad - especially the subs lurking in Westpac that can cremate the kin and friends of the Chinese leadership in less than an hour, along with hundreds of Chinese cities and hundreds of millions of Chinese. Frankly, any Chinese first strike against the US would likely result in the rest of the world, including Russia, joining in an all-out nuclear attack on China. Not because of any Russian affinity for the US, but because a China unconstrained by American power that has demonstrated a willingness to use nukes offensively is a mortal threat to not just Russia the sovereign state, but the Russian people.


61 posted on 11/25/2020 12:33:30 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: cuban leaf

Honestly, I think no matter who is in charge we do “little” to help.

What I don’t understand is WHY would China be so focused on getting rid of Taiwan? Who wants to manage 23 million pissed off Chinese who hate you?

I would think it would be easier to just “cut them off” and economically ruin them.

Taiwan is not Hong Kong....


62 posted on 11/25/2020 12:35:24 PM PST by Vermont Lt (We have entered "Insanity Week." Act accordingly.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Unless China and Russia scheme together.


63 posted on 11/25/2020 12:41:56 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus (JESUS IS LORD. )
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To: RomanSoldier19

The invasion will be China’s final move, not the first.
They will threaten and wait for the bribes to start pouring in .
So many other things they will demand first -
Trump tariffs lifted
Huweii unleashed
Clear field to exploit Africa
Rare Earth monopoly
End US alliances with Japan, South Korea
Free access to Venezuela’s oil
Access to US technology
They’ll get Biden to offer appeasement in all these areas, THEN invade


64 posted on 11/25/2020 12:42:27 PM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: humblegunner

Naw, I’m reasonably certain that he voted in the 2020 election!


65 posted on 11/25/2020 12:42:50 PM PST by Bayard
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To: RomanSoldier19

Nothing newsworthy here... The loss of Formosa is a given now that the American communists have seized control...

The Harris-Pelousy communist administration will probably offer logistic and reconnaissance support to the chicoms for the invasion...


66 posted on 11/25/2020 12:58:39 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

[Unless China and Russia scheme together.]


No benefit for Russia, unless its long-term goal is to become a Chinese province. During WW2, a big reason for the Japanese not attacking* Russia and tying up Russian troops in the Far East, thereby preventing them from reinforcing shattered Russian forces in Europe, was likely because they anticipated that a Germany that had conquered Russia would turn its attention to Japanese territory. Historically, most alliances have been opportunistic, with alliance members gobbling each other up, given the chance.

* Khalkin Gol, a skirmish between Russia and Japan was technically a Russian victory. In reality, the Russians lost more men and equipment despite being more numerous and better-armed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol#Aftermath


67 posted on 11/25/2020 12:59:47 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Beijing Joe is NOT the President. If you are willing to let him steal it, you are a fool.


68 posted on 11/25/2020 1:03:53 PM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

December invasion of Taiwan???


69 posted on 11/25/2020 1:19:48 PM PST by Wuli
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To: bert

“Leaving the Biden administration fools with a good hot war is justice”

Biden would quickly apologize and nuke Tel Aviv to make his handlers happy.


70 posted on 11/25/2020 3:15:39 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: RomanSoldier19

Trump sure stirs
The Pot!


71 posted on 11/25/2020 3:34:02 PM PST by Big Red Badger (TRUMP, the Other guy lives in a Basement!)
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To: Vaquero

Democrats Love
A Good War!
.
Plenty of Kickbacks!


72 posted on 11/25/2020 4:16:24 PM PST by Big Red Badger (TRUMP, the Other guy lives in a Basement!)
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To: ModelBreaker

And unfortunately it could be the final straw for America

A stolen election and we’re the ones that will pay in the end.


73 posted on 11/25/2020 4:38:02 PM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kil l you. )
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To: null and void

Thanks for the
“Tom Turkey” bit,
You talked me off
The ledge,,,


74 posted on 11/25/2020 5:16:26 PM PST by Big Red Badger (TRUMP, the Other guy lives in a Basement!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

So,we can take out 1000 Chinese with one missile.


75 posted on 11/25/2020 8:48:45 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Old Yeller

It would be a Harris/Clinton administration, at first.πŸ™„


76 posted on 11/25/2020 8:53:06 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: null and void

LOL - didn’t see that one coming...


77 posted on 11/25/2020 8:56:55 PM PST by GOPJ (VOTER FRAUD UNDERMINES AMERICAN DEMOCRACY)
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To: humblegunner

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78 posted on 11/25/2020 8:57:17 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: humblegunner

Our you sure?😏


79 posted on 11/25/2020 8:57:55 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: lgjhn23

Taiwan will fire its nuclear weapons on the mainland putting an abrupt end to the chicom threat and probably give J F’n Kerry something to do with climate change to save mankind. China must think some Chinese would not use nukes against their oppressive Brothers in Peking. They are wrong.


80 posted on 11/25/2020 9:34:10 PM PST by Jumper
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